Bus Zone interferes with Driveway - Getting tickets

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll

Your driveway isn't being used as a bus stop. The portion of the road that has been designated as a bus zone is not your property, there is also a very good chance that you have to cross city property in order to access your driveway. This is not unique, here is one.

https://www.google.com/maps/@50.9168...7i13312!8i6656

While not unique I still think that is fukced up.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by timun

Yes gents, that's right.

Here's a screenshot from Google Maps' satellite view of a random street in Hidden Valley, upon which I marked areas where one cannot park in red:



It's most of the street. Of the 50 or so properties in view there are only about a couple dozen on-street spaces, and obviously most of that is along the south side of Hidden Valley Ranch Crescent.

It's by design, frankly. Lots of people love suburban homes with attached garages and a driveway, and don't want people parking on the street. They think it makes the area look "cheap".

You should check out some of the 'burbs in the US with privately-owned roads and strong HOAs. Massively wide streets, no sidewalks, no parking. It's eerie.

Hahaha, unrelated to the discussion, but this is my good friends' cul de sac. I've definitely parked multiple times in the red zones, which he always assures me is okay.

[Ahuch]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

Hahaha, unrelated to the discussion, but this is my good friends' cul de sac. I've definitely parked multiple times in the red zones, which he always assures me is okay.

In my experience it's next to impossible to get the parking authority to enforce anything outside of downtown so I wouldn't sweat it too much. Took about 15 hours to get CPA out to my rental condo last time someone parked in my tenants spot.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Is a bus pad a place where the bus hangs out with his bus buds after the bars close and where he hopes to one day take a lady/boy bus to for good bus times after having cocktails?

Does DJ Bus come over and spin Wheels on The Bus?

Yes DJ bus performs, its where everyone bus a move.

[timun]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

It's racist. The word to use here is racist. Communities like those you described were designed specifically to keep those people out.

Perhaps. Those people can be very broadly defined. I'm whiter than Casper the Friendly Ghost, and I certainly didn't feel welcome in some of the communities I've been down there... I think it's more about keeping poor people out, rather than melanin. Poverty and darker skin obviously coincides a lot though.

[timun]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

Hahaha, unrelated to the discussion, but this is my good friends' cul de sac. I've definitely parked multiple times in the red zones, which he always assures me is okay.

Well hopefully he won't mind that some rando on the internet picked his street, annotated a satellite photo and called it "suburban-hell.png"...

[Mr.Coffee]

I always thought that police or the city making life harder for underground motorcycle gangs profiteering from illicit trade and exhibiting violent extortion tactics was a time honoured tradition.

[frinkprof]

I think this is the situation. This is the best I can post without inadvertently revealing his address. The red is the base of the bus stop sign, and the leftmost pad with the depressed curb is the driveway.



As has been discussed, everything from the curb to at least the back of sidewalk would be within the City road right-of-way, including the driveway pad in the grass boulevard.

[SebC]

The red circled post should be a "bus zone ->" sign and the OP should request a bus stop sign at the pad.

[81MC]

Frinkprof, are you my neighbour?!? Because that’s some seriously good detective work...and I did t realize the boulevard looked so ####ty. Good thing it’s apparently the City’s to deal with.

And yes ^ that is exactly right, and exactly what I’ve requested. It’s just such a silly thing.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by frinkprof

I think this is the situation. This is the best I can post without inadvertently revealing his address. The red is the base of the bus stop sign, and the leftmost pad with the depressed curb is the driveway.



As has been discussed, everything from the curb to at least the back of sidewalk would be within the City road right-of-way, including the driveway pad in the grass boulevard.

Ya, that’s strange. 81MC has a case for wondering about this one. It’s further apart than I expected from the description. The sign could easily be at the other shrub on the right, keep people from waiting for the bus on the driveway cut and still have room to pull out. Only thing that makes sense is one time 81MC parked at the end of the driveway and the bus driver called up sign guy to move the sign to be a jerk.

[PepsiFree]

From the looks of that image, 81MC is 100% in the wrong in terms of where he can park, but I'm 100% sympathetic to this being really annoying.

The whole thing is a bus zone, so you can't park there. You need to shovel the sidewalk, but you don't need to shovel the city-property section of the driveway if you don't want to, so that's certainly one solution to save you trouble in the winter (as the smallest "FU" to city transit).

I would play by the rules for now but keep fighting to get that sign moved. There doesn't seem to be any logical reason why it couldn't be moved to the other side of your driveway, given how much space is on the other side. Will that happen?.... unlikely, but if you're planning on living there a while yet, why not try?

[btimbit]

I don't have much to add other than I spend about half my work day arguing with moron transit drivers and supervisors, so I feel your pain.

[llwhiteoutll]

Originally Posted by 81MC

and I did t realize the boulevard looked so ####ty. Good thing it’s apparently the City’s to deal with.

City property, but you have to maintain it. Except the concrete bus pad, transit has to clear the snow from that.

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll

Your driveway isn't being used as a bus stop. The portion of the road that has been designated as a bus zone is not your property, there is also a very good chance that you have to cross city property in order to access your driveway. This is not unique, here is one.

https://www.google.com/maps/@50.9168...7i13312!8i6656

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

While not unique I still think that is fukced up.

Equally odd to me is why the sign at the tail end of the bus zone is blue (ie active) while the one at the front is green which is a future bus zone and therefore not active (I think). There is a small sign at the base which I cannot make out, maybe that explains the situation.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by 81MC

Frinkprof, are you my neighbour?!? Because that’s some seriously good detective work...and I did t realize the boulevard looked so ####ty. Good thing it’s apparently the City’s to deal with.

And yes ^ that is exactly right, and exactly what I’ve requested. It’s just such a silly thing.

Zoom in on one detail in a photo without surroundings at 90% of our houses and they'll look like ####. Nobody's judging, don't worry.

[squiggs96]

Actual picture of the CPA in her helicopter pointing out 81MC's house for a ticket.





When was the sign moved?

[Hemi-Cuda]

I didn't think it was a big deal at the time, but after reading this thread I'm very glad my wife put the kibosh on any house with a bus stop nearby when we were house hunting. Sounds like a total pain in the ass to deal with

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

I didn't think it was a big deal at the time, but after reading this thread I'm very glad my wife put the kibosh on any house with a bus stop nearby when we were house hunting. Sounds like a total pain in the ass to deal with

Yeah, pretty much 100% of home-owners who get asked to have one added, agree, sign a waiver, then call the city back within a month to bitch and want it removed.

[Mccree]

Originally Posted by Ahuch

In my experience it's next to impossible to get the parking authority to enforce anything outside of downtown so I wouldn't sweat it too much. Took about 15 hours to get CPA out to my rental condo last time someone parked in my tenants spot.

Unless it is a snow route and they decide to plow the street in front of school 10 minutes before the bell rings. They show up like gang busters for the easy pickins