07-02-2022, 01:46 PM
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#21
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
There’s just something about a professional athlete not betting on themself that rubs me the wrong way. It’s like he doesn’t have faith in his abilities to rip off a good season. A guy like him that’s not fleet of foot needs to hammer out a career contract before he loses a step.
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He'll have over $40M in career earnings at the end of this contract. He also has yet to play a full NHL season due to how often he's injured.
I can see the logic behind him taking the guaranteed money now to set himself up for life instead betting on himself with a one year qualifying offer.
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07-02-2022, 02:03 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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It’s quite possible that he didn’t think he’d get qualified at that price, then go to UFA only to find that because of his mediocre season he was not going to get what he has now agreed to. Was anyone paying 7 to him? And 3 years isn’t much of a sacrifice.
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07-02-2022, 03:45 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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My guess is he has had way too much on his plate with his fathers illness and passing and needed some stability in his life, judging him by the last couple of years may prove to be a mistake
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07-02-2022, 04:35 PM
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#24
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
My guess is he has had way too much on his plate with his fathers illness and passing and needed some stability in his life, judging him by the last couple of years may prove to be a mistake
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which is why you take the one year deal if you are him
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07-02-2022, 04:37 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
which is why you take the one year deal if you are him
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Yeah, not sure why he took the 3 year deal. Would have made sense to either get the QO and bounce or a 7 year deal for stability. This bridge deal doesn’t make sense whatsoever.
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07-02-2022, 04:46 PM
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#26
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
Yeah, not sure why he took the 3 year deal. Would have made sense to either get the QO and bounce or a 7 year deal for stability. This bridge deal doesn’t make sense whatsoever.
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Minnesota kid who will be a UFA at 28 when this contract is over and the Wild cap issues will be done when he is UFA. Maybe a little sanity in his thinking.
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07-02-2022, 05:00 PM
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#27
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
which is why you take the one year deal if you are him
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While I would agree financially from an emotional point of view my guess is he just wants to settle somewhere, not have to worry about anything but looking after his mum, read that family history, kids had a shed load on his shoulders for years
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07-02-2022, 06:33 PM
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#28
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
which is why you take the one year deal if you are him
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A guaranteed $20M for a player who broke his back in his rookie year isn't anything to sneeze at. If he does well enough that he's significantly underpaid in years 2 and 3, then he'll probably have a big enough contract after that that it'll barely matter.
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07-03-2022, 10:06 AM
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#29
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Calgary
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Dude is soft as butter that was put in the microwave for 10 seconds and then left on the counter. Kevin Fiala had played more games over the last 5 yrs. Terrible player and terrible team.
Last edited by Eubee; 07-03-2022 at 10:12 AM.
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07-03-2022, 10:53 AM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Never really sure what to think about Boeser. Can be a good player when he wants to, and when things are going well. Can be completely invisible, and easy to play against, much of the time.
Kind of like the Canucks in general.
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He's kind of a winger version of Sean Monahan, though he does shoot right which is added-value
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07-03-2022, 12:12 PM
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#31
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
He's kind of a winger version of Sean Monahan, though he does shoot right which is added-value
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Not arguing with you but a quick look at the top scorers in the league, which to me are quite valuable, 8/10 shoot left. Weird how we all take that shoot's right as gospel about how important they are.
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07-03-2022, 12:25 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beatle17
Not arguing with you but a quick look at the top scorers in the league, which to me are quite valuable, 8/10 shoot left. Weird how we all take that shoot's right as gospel about how important they are.
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That stat is evidence about how rare a good RHS is. I suspect the league is 3/4 LHS.
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07-03-2022, 01:17 PM
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#33
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Injury history, poor season, family tragedy, this deal seems like a better option than going to arbitration and taking his paycut, and very likely becoming a rental player and then UFA. That doesn't provide him with stability that he might be looking for right now.
The cap is also artificially low right now until they pay off the escrow due to COVID. With a better than expected revenue last season, the escrow balance may be paid off sooner than anticipated when the MOU was drafted, especially as new revenue sources like the ads on jerseys will be happening.
Fehr thinks that the escrow balance could be paid off by the end of the 2024/2025 season which is probably not so coincidentally when this contract ends.
So now you have the potential of a big cap jump with teams having a lot of extra cap space as a result, a 28 year old UFA ripe for the massive 7/8 year contract and as noted earlier the same year that Suter and Parise come off the books. It's also before the CBA expires.
I like this contract from Boesser's point of view. Sort of gives him everything. Increased stability for the next couple years, guaranteed income for an injury-prone player to set his family up for his great grand kids lives but the potential to cash in huge while it looks like the stars might be aligning for that UFA class (also Draisaitl, Marner and Rantanen in it).
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07-03-2022, 06:57 PM
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#34
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Perhaps he is betting that the cap skyrockets in 3 years and he can get a 7x$8 deal to finish out his career
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07-03-2022, 07:36 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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I find it odd that the kid is getting crapped on for seeming to like his city/team and wanting to stay there, isn't that a good thing, an admirable trait?
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07-04-2022, 05:38 AM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beatle17
Not arguing with you but a quick look at the top scorers in the league, which to me are quite valuable, 8/10 shoot left. Weird how we all take that shoot's right as gospel about how important they are.
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You're kind of missing the forest for the trees. Other than the Oilers, pretty much every potent powerplay unit in the NHL has a right-shot forward or two complementing the "top scorer".
If you look at Tampa's deadly PP, yes Kucherov shoots left. But the primary passing options he has are Point (right) and Stamkos (right). That split-second between passing across their bodies and feeding their wheelhouse can be the difference between a much-needed PP goal and no goal.
MacKinnon and Rantanen play a similar role on Colorado's PP. They also have Makar (RHS) on the point.
Washington, Toronto, Boston, etc all follow a similar PP setup. Even Calgary tried to have that, but Toffoli didn't work out in that "Stamkos" role.
A few years ago, when Vancouver had a killer PP, Boeser was a huge part of that iirc.
Being rhs doesn't make you better. But it adds values to your presence on the ice.
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07-04-2022, 09:36 AM
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#37
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Franchise Player
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The Canucks also have Garland shooting right handed, who for whatever reason they can't seem to find a place for on their top power play despite him scoring 49 even strength points last year. That was 2nd on their team behind Miller and 51st league-wide among forwards, ahead of guys like Zibanejad, Svechnikov, Reinhart, Hertl, Kuznetsov, Kreider and Hintz... and it'd be pretty weird if you didn't find some top PP time for those guys.
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07-04-2022, 12:51 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
The Canucks also have Garland shooting right handed, who for whatever reason they can't seem to find a place for on their top power play despite him scoring 49 even strength points last year. That was 2nd on their team behind Miller and 51st league-wide among forwards, ahead of guys like Zibanejad, Svechnikov, Reinhart, Hertl, Kuznetsov, Kreider and Hintz... and it'd be pretty weird if you didn't find some top PP time for those guys.
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I hated the Canucks getting Garland. I have no clue why they didn't use him on the top PP. They were using Chiasson. I get that Garland isn't big, and they wanted net front. But he's feisty and can move in and out.
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07-04-2022, 03:26 PM
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#39
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
I hated the Canucks getting Garland. I have no clue why they didn't use him on the top PP. They were using Chiasson. I get that Garland isn't big, and they wanted net front. But he's feisty and can move in and out.
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The long short of it, is after Green left Garland looked like ####.
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07-04-2022, 03:43 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
The long short of it, is after Green left Garland looked like ####.
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Maybe. IMO he's a RHS Mangiapane and man would he look good as a Flame. At less than $5M for 4 more years especially.
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