2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Come on, man. 8th overall pick puts up 20 goals and 60 points at 21, and the Leafs trade him for Brodie?

No. That’s ####ing silly

Yeah, I think they might do that. Hall was traded at 23. Human psychology comes into play and GMs make stupid decisions all the time (not just the Oilers).

Unless you have confirmation that you can PM me or an official press release, your guess is as good as mine on this.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Hamilton + Bennett for Ekman-Larsson + Domi

Hamilton is younger and signed with more term so the Flames get to upgrade from Bennett to Domi.

Then the Flames can look to shop Brodie for a top 6 forward and not decimate their top 4 in one off season, and make room on the right side for Andersson.

Hamilton gets to go to a market with less media and fan attention, just my opinion but I think he'd prefer that to be honest.


Gaudreau - Monahan - Top six FWD (Brodie trade or UFA)
Tkachuk - Jankowski - Domi
Ferland - Backlund - Frolik

Build 4th line from Mangiapane, Dube, Lazar, Shore, Hathaway, Brouwer or UFA signing.

Giordano - Hamonic
E-Larsson - Stone
Kulak - Andersson

Smith
Rittich / Gillies

I would do it if there was a sign and trade for OEL. The fact he only has one year remaining would be of concern.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by keenan87

You don't think Karlsson and Burns don't/didn't make those mistakes? They both make stupid plays all the time but doesn't mean they are bad players.

As for Brodie, I don't think teams will be bidding low on him. I think there will still be GMs who think he can be a Top 2 guy on their team. Factor in the friendly contract and he makes a great option for many teams.

You mean Karlsson and Burns who both have averaged over 70 points the last 3 years? These are elite offensive players.

You may have a touch of homerism here.

Dougie is not Karlsson or Burns
Brodie is not returning Nylander

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Yeah, I think they might do that. Hall was traded at 23. Human psychology comes into play and GMs make stupid decisions all the time (not just the Oilers).

Unless you have confirmation that you can PM me or an official press release, your guess is as good as mine on this.

A press release of what, exactly?

I think one of our guesses is better than the other, my friend. Time will tell

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

You mean Karlsson and Burns who both have averaged over 70 points the last 3 years? These are elite offensive players.

You may have a touch of homerism here.

Dougie is not Karlsson or Burns
Brodie is not returning Nylander

Thr same Brent Burns who was averaging only 40-50 points all the way up to age 28 right?

Karlsson is elite but that doesnt mean Hamilton can't get there.

As for Brodie, I said GMs can be desperate at times and gave you the most relevant example from a few years ago. Unless you are an employee of the Oilers, you can't just dismiss that trade as an Oilers blunder. You are not a NHL GM so don't try to pretend you are. You don't know the current value of a dman and forward in the NHL right now.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

You mean Karlsson and Burns who both have averaged over 70 points the last 3 years? These are elite offensive players.

He makes a valid point. They are both older than Hamilton. His growing point totals combined with his age, size and skating are a very unique package.

A few posts back ago you took a single play and tried to slight him. That's asinine. You can do that for any defender who plays the minutes he does and you could pick instances like that from any elite defender as a result. It's a terrible way to build an argument.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

A press release of what, exactly?

I think one of our guesses is better than the other, my friend. Time will tell

You seem to have a lot of fluffy comments about stuff. Not really backed up. Edmonton Screwed Up...., Hamilton wont learn to be a complete player....., Brodie won't be it for Nylander...

I was just wondering if you had evidence of this or is this all jist your opinion? Cause if it is opinion, then that doesn't mean ####. Similar to some of my opinions... so like I said, your guess is as good as mine.

[minnow]

I remember the Flames having one of the best defensive pairings in the league. They still have the two players that made up that pairing. They do not have one of the top pairings in the league now. This makes no sense.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by keenan87

You seem to have a lot of fluffy comments about stuff. Not really backed up. "Edmonton Screwed Up", "Hamilton wont learn to be a complete player" "Nylander won't be it for Brodie"

I was just wondering if you had evidence of this or is this all jist your opinion? Cause if it is opinion, then that doesn't mean ####.

Wow.

Firstly, you are using the Hall trade as an example where somebody screwed up the valuation, then having a tantrum because I suggested Edmonton screwed up the valuation. Relax, man.

If you really, seriously think that Toronto would trade Nylander straight up for Brodie, then we can accept that our skies are different colours. And mine is blue.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

If you really, seriously think that Toronto would trade Nylander straight up for Brodie, then we can accept that our skies are different colours. And mine is blue.

I doubt anyone really seriously thought Edmonton would have traded Hall for Larsson. That’s the point here, you (or any of us) have no idea. Teams make surprising moves from positions of strength to shore up a positional weakness.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Wow.

Firstly, you are using the Hall trade as an example where somebody screwed up the valuation, then having a tantrum because I suggested Edmonton screwed up the valuation. Relax, man.

If you really, seriously think that Toronto would trade Nylander straight up for Brodie, then we can accept that our skies are different colours. And mine is blue.

For someone asking me to relax, you are one arrogant poster.

There are two posts now where I have said our opinions don't matter (both of ours) and we will see what happens. But you keep trying to end the conversation by stating your opinion is more accurate. Then you ask me to relax?

Okay, you are a very smart man and your opinion is better! Awesome work! Does this make your Sunday morning? I hope it does. Afterall, you won an Internet message board battle!

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

I doubt anyone really seriously thought Edmonton would have traded Hall for Larsson. That’s the point here, you (or any of us) have no idea. Teams make surprising moves from positions of strength to shore up a positional weakness.

Is that the point? The idea is to hope to be on the right side of a lopsided trade? Good luck with that.

Nylander for Brodie will not happen. I am as confident in this as I am that the Leafs will not issue a press release confirming that they aren’t making that trade.

[d_phaneuf]

Nylander for brodie is insane

You cant point to oilers deals because its clear those were crazy at the time, and toronto seems to have a very strong management group

If the leafs make it known they ade looking for a d man, and/or are willimg to move nylander, they get 29 better offers than brodie

Thats not a position of weakness, this wouldnt be a deadline deal or dealing a ufa

[dammage79]

Kapanen + for Brodie feels more realistic.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

What do you think you are getting for a #4 defensive dman with inconsistent and unreliable gap control?

Kapanen would very much be a break even and could seriously help our top nine forward group. He's been underused on a very good Leafs forward core but has legitimate skill, speed and upside.

You just described Brodie, not Hamonic.

[Vinny01]

Kadri for Brodie could be interesting. The Leafs could be getting tired of his antics and they could consider shifting Nylander to centre.

Flames add depth at centre that allows Backlund to slide down to the third line. Doesn’t solve the top line RW issue but greatly helps with depth.

I doubt the Leafs do thst deal but Kadri would be a solid addition to the Flames

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

Nylander for brodie is insane

You cant point to oilers deals because its clear those were crazy at the time, and toronto seems to have a very strong management group

If the leafs make it known they ade looking for a d man, and/or are willimg to move nylander, they get 29 better offers than brodie

Thats not a position of weakness, this wouldnt be a deadline deal or dealing a ufa

What defenseman on the Nucks would you trade for Nylander?

You and DeluxeMustache are over-rating the value of Nylander. He is a small, one-dimensional scoring winger. He is similar to Eberle, prior to the Oilers completely ruining Eberle.

Defensemen are more in demand than wingers.

[jayswin]

Brodie for Nylander, guys? Let's try to at least pretend to be objective in this.

[Enoch Root]

No way you give up Brodie or Hamonic, on their contracts, for Kapanen.

If the Leafs want to immeditely upgrade their D, they are going to have to give up a good player.

[868904]

Funny how making or not making the playoffs changes everything.

Before the season started, no one here would accept Kapanen + for Brodie, now all the Flames players suck and all the leafs players are gold, even though the Leafs are being slapped around silly by the Bruins.

Change the coach first before you make any major personnel changes. God, it's like GG devalued every flames by 50%. Thanks Glen.