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Old 12-12-2018, 03:45 PM   #5461
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Do you think that was fair value? I mean, Toronto traded a pick for Tom Kurvers. That sure worked out well.

I don't think repeating other teams' mistakes is necessarily the way to go.
Doesn’t really matter if it’s fair value. Market value is whatever someone is willing to pay.

Teams repeat mistakes all the time. We see it every trade deadline and every July 1st.

Do I think the Flames should be renting players at the price of a 1st rounder? No I do not. Do I think Hayes might fetch a 1st at the deadline? I think that might happen.
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And would be extremely cheap.

He was traded for a 3rd and a B/C prospect last deadline. The way he is currently playing should net less than that this year
It would suck for Maroon to get traded from the Blues.

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Yeah I don't mind Maroon for more depth especially heading into the playoffs, but moving Maroon out of St. Louis would be bad optics for the Blues organization, and what I assume would leave a sour taste in the mouths of the players around the league.
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It would suck for Maroon to get traded from the Blues.
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Yeah I don't mind Maroon for more depth especially heading into the playoffs, but moving Maroon out of St. Louis would be bad optics for the Blues organization, and what I assume would leave a sour taste in the mouths of the players around the league.

Pretty sure he knows it is coming.
His full NTC turns to a 8 team NTC on February 1st. This was always a possibility when he signed with the Blues

He is UFA and if he wants a very good chance at a NHL contract next season he should probably try and have a decent playoff run.


If he plays well enough he can probably turn it in to another contract with the Blues this offseason.
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We should trade Monahan for him and then put O'Reilly on waivers

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If he plays well enough he can probably turn it in to another contract with the Blues this offseason.
Very fair point.
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Old 12-12-2018, 03:57 PM   #5467
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I'd rather get O'Reilly than Schenn.

Both the same age, but O'Reilly has 5 years left where as Schenn only has 2, and then he will likely get a higher AAV than ROR. Plus ROR would add yet another face off wizard to the line up.
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I'd rather get O'Reilly than Schenn.

Both the same age, but O'Reilly has 5 years left where as Schenn only has 2, and then he will likely get a higher AAV than ROR. Plus ROR would add yet another face off wizard to the line up.
Both it is then!
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Old 12-12-2018, 04:07 PM   #5469
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I see the Blues moving players with less term on their deals than guys like RoR and Tarasenko. Would the Blues want to strip it down to the studs or retool and try and get younger? They did trade a lotto protected 1st to get ror so I can’t see them wanting to go full tank.

From the Flames I could see them coveting is pieces like Bennett, Jankowski, Dube, Valimaki, Andersson, Kylington, and obviously our top 4 forwards and Hanifin (which would be obvious no go). Picks also help as that is good currency come draft time. The flames have to be cautious moving picks and prospects but I do think Schenn would be an amazing fit here.
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Old 12-12-2018, 04:19 PM   #5470
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I'd rather get O'Reilly than Schenn.

Both the same age, but O'Reilly has 5 years left where as Schenn only has 2, and then he will likely get a higher AAV than ROR. Plus ROR would add yet another face off wizard to the line up.
How will we fit O'Rielly's salary? I think it would be easier to fit Schenn. Speaking of O'Rielly i saw him chilling with Mcdavid at an airport in the off-season so it would be pretty funny if he came to Calgary.
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Old 12-12-2018, 04:50 PM   #5471
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1072953927983947776

Carolina looking to acquire a sniper. Sounds like they could use Lindholm and Skinner right about now.
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It would suck for Maroon to get traded from the Blues.

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Old 12-12-2018, 06:10 PM   #5473
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I would definitely add maroon as well.

Blues and flames could be interesting trade partners, but they are tough to do business with.
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Get O'Reilly. At any cost besides core pieces. Do it Tre. Do it. Just Do it. Like, seriously.

Always loved his game.

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Old 12-12-2018, 07:36 PM   #5475
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icon57 Flames Blues Trade Proposal:

To Calgary: Ryan O'Reilly

To St Louis: Sam Bennett + 2019 1st & 2020 2nd

Flames send Michael Stone away with a mid-pick in return for a late-pick.

2018-19:

Gaudreau 6,75 Monahan 6,375 Lindholm 4,85
Tkachuk ,925 O'Reilly 7,5 Neal 5,75
Frolík 4,3 Backlund 5,35 Ryan 3,125
Mangiapane ,705 Jankowski 1,675 Czarnik 1,25
Hathaway ,850

Giordano 6,75 Brodie 4,65
Hanifin 4,95 Hamonic 3,857
Välimäki ,894 Andersson ,755
Kylington ,730

Smith 4,25
Rittich ,800

Salary Cap $79,500,000
Cap Hit $79,447,542
Buyouts $2,404,167
Bonuses $1,560,000
Cap Space $52,458


Next season Tkachuk is signed to 8x8 and Dubé replaces Frolík and there's still lots of cap space for goalies.

2019-20:

Gaudreau 6,75 Monahan 6,375 Lindholm 4,85
Tkachuk 8,0 O'Reilly 7,5 Neal 5,75
Dubé ,778 Backlund 5,35 Ryan 3,125
Mangiapane ,705 Jankowski 1,675 Czarnik 1,25

Giordano 6,75 Brodie 4,65
Hanifin 4,95 Hamonic 3,857
Välimäki ,894 Andersson ,755
Kylington ,730

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Salary Cap $83,000,000
Cap Hit $76,216,708
Buyouts $1,500,000
Bonuses $747,500
Cap Space $6,783,292
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Old 12-12-2018, 08:02 PM   #5476
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I think it will depend on two things. How the Flames are doing and how the Flyers are doing. Johnny likes to win.


Pretty much every player likes to win.

Many of those players also go where the money is greatest.


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JG eats two packages of Skittles a day.


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Old 12-12-2018, 08:21 PM   #5478
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Tonight underscores this team's true need. It has never stopped being goaltending.

If Mike Smith doesn't suck, great. The priority should still be finding out if Rittich is someone you believe in. Because if he's not, you have to go out and spend to bring in a goalie. If it costs your 1st round pick or dollars in free agency, the goaltending position must be addressed.

This team scores 5 goals a period every couple weeks. They don't need a forward, they need their guys to get healthy and they need their goaltending to reliably not require 5 goal periods.
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Old 12-12-2018, 08:34 PM   #5479
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Old 12-12-2018, 08:48 PM   #5480
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Tonight underscores this team's true need. It has never stopped being goaltending.

If Mike Smith doesn't suck, great. The priority should still be finding out if Rittich is someone you believe in. Because if he's not, you have to go out and spend to bring in a goalie. If it costs your 1st round pick or dollars in free agency, the goaltending position must be addressed.

This team scores 5 goals a period every couple weeks. They don't need a forward, they need their guys to get healthy and they need their goaltending to reliably not require 5 goal periods.
I think they could use both. Rittich may be the answer to our goaltending. I agree we should find out by this off season. I think we still could use another offensive threat though. After Backlund things trail off quite a bit.
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