08-23-2018, 11:36 AM
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#2461
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
If I had to guess I would say that Colorado is a destination for Karlsson. Lots of cap space, draft picks and young prospects at their disposal.
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I agree. Something around the Sens getting their first back plus a couple other adds. Makes too much sense and Karlsson would re-sign there.
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08-23-2018, 11:41 AM
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#2462
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Otto-matic
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08-23-2018, 12:01 PM
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#2463
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Franchise Player
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Eklund stating sharks, oilers, Canucks are in on Karlsson...
You'd have to think the price is for a decent roster player, a high prospect(s), and a pick.
Wonder what the oilers would be willing to part with...
Klefbom, bouchard, protected 1st?
What would need to be added?
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08-23-2018, 12:07 PM
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#2464
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 Posted the 6 millionth post! |
My guess is Edmonton is offering Nurse, Pool Party, and a protected 1st.
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08-23-2018, 12:19 PM
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#2465
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Lethbridge
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
My guess is Edmonton is offering Nurse, Pool Party, and a protected 1st.
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Oilers would have to send a lot more salary back.
They have $3.9M in cap space as is, Puljujarvi is still on a $925K ELC. Karlssons current cap hit is $6.5M.
If Sekera is able to return at any point this season, the Oilers could not be cap compliant. They'll be even harder pressed to re-sign Karlsson, which if you're giving up 2 of your best young roster players, you'd have to ensure their is an extension in place.
I just don't think it's possible for the Oilers to fit Karlsson into the cap without giving up Draisaitl.
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08-23-2018, 12:22 PM
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#2466
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy
Eklund stating sharks, oilers, Canucks are in on Karlsson...
You'd have to think the price is for a decent roster player, a high prospect(s), and a pick.
Wonder what the oilers would be willing to part with...
Klefbom, bouchard, protected 1st?
What would need to be added?
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If the Oilers wanted to sign him they would have to send money the other way. My guess is that which would mean that Draisaitl, RNH, Kleffbomb, Nurse and Larrson would all be in the conversation. Those are their only contracts that they could/ would be willing to move.
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08-23-2018, 12:26 PM
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Posted the 6 millionth post! |
Yeah good point, Draisaitl would have to go based on salary alone. Also, I imagine Nurse is not wanting to take any kind of discount to play in Edmonton, and he wants out. Problem is, does he want to go to the gong show that is the Senators? Probably not.
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08-23-2018, 12:34 PM
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#2468
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
Yeah good point, Draisaitl would have to go based on salary alone. Also, I imagine Nurse is not wanting to take any kind of discount to play in Edmonton, and he wants out. Problem is, does he want to go to the gong show that is the Senators? Probably not.
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Nurse doesnt have a choice
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08-23-2018, 12:36 PM
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#2469
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Lethbridge
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
Yeah good point, Draisaitl would have to go based on salary alone. Also, I imagine Nurse is not wanting to take any kind of discount to play in Edmonton, and he wants out. Problem is, does he want to go to the gong show that is the Senators? Probably not.
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Ya, Ottawa isn't exactly an attractive destination right now, however Nurse is from Hamilton, so maybe? As an RFA he doesn't really have any say, unless he's willing to sit out.
Honestly, if Ottawa is looking at the Oilers as a trade partner, I think it starts with Draisaitl and an unprotected first as well as Bouchard. Sens don't have a tonne of cap space either, so taking on an overpaid Draisaitl needs to have a sweetener. And they'll want some sort of defensive piece that is cheap, aside from Bouchard the Oilers don't have much in that category to offer, as I don't think anyone outside of mulletville believes Bear as a top pairing guy.
They just don't make sense as trade partners for a big piece like Karlsson.
Last edited by wretched34; 08-23-2018 at 12:38 PM.
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08-23-2018, 12:40 PM
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#2470
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Last edited by TheIronMaiden; 08-23-2018 at 12:48 PM.
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08-23-2018, 12:53 PM
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#2471
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by wretched34
Ya, Ottawa isn't exactly an attractive destination right now, however Nurse is from Hamilton, so maybe? As an RFA he doesn't really have any say, unless he's willing to sit out.
Honestly, if Ottawa is looking at the Oilers as a trade partner, I think it starts with Draisaitl and an unprotected first as well as Bouchard. Sens don't have a tonne of cap space either, so taking on an overpaid Draisaitl needs to have a sweetener. And they'll want some sort of defensive piece that is cheap, aside from Bouchard the Oilers don't have much in that category to offer, as I don't think anyone outside of mulletville believes Bear as a top pairing guy.
They just don't make sense as trade partners for a big piece like Karlsson.
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The sens need a sweetener to take on a signed Draisaitl? I don't think so...plenty of teams would be happy to take him.
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08-23-2018, 01:00 PM
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#2472
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Posted the 6 millionth post! |
Draisaitl would actually make a ton of sense. With Stone and Duchene expiring as UFA's next year and no guarantee they would resign, the Sens would be getting a young asset signed long-term that can slide into their top-six. Nurse would likely get a top-two slot on the blueline (considering Ceci is their next best thing).
It actually makes a ton of sense for the Sens. Does it make sense for Karlsoon not in the slightest. Bet he wishes he could have gone to Florida instead of Hoffman.
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08-23-2018, 01:34 PM
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#2474
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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If it made sense for any Canadian team to pay for 1 year of Karlsson its the Oilers. With him they are a competitive team, without him they will struggle to make the playoffs.
What doesnt make sense is the Sens taking less from a Canadian team because Karlsson is a rental.
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08-23-2018, 01:45 PM
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#2475
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Does Colorado/Ottawa do Kale Makar + Ottawa’s first back?
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Originally Posted by oilboy2 
This deal is DONE, im not sure what the worry is. Heatly is an Oiler, just some paperwork to get done. This isnt another Nylander incident
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08-23-2018, 01:47 PM
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#2476
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Franchise Player
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Considering Ottawa is a near lock to finish 31st this season, and they're likely to trade Stone soon, the 1st round pick should probably be enough.
Makar + the 1st seems like massive overpayment.
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08-23-2018, 01:50 PM
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#2477
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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The Sens will get as 1st from whoever they deal Karlsson to, whenever they deal him. Even if its only 3-4 teams that are actively in the mix, one of them is likely to add to that 1st to get things moving in their direction.
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08-23-2018, 01:57 PM
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#2478
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Franchise Player
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I'm referring to Ottawa's 1st round pick, which is currently controlled by Colorado. No team in the running to land Karlsson has a 1st with that kind of value.
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08-23-2018, 02:34 PM
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#2479
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
I'm referring to Ottawa's 1st round pick, which is currently controlled by Colorado. No team in the running to land Karlsson has a 1st with that kind of value.
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Not to mention the added ‘save face’ value of that pick.
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08-23-2018, 02:41 PM
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#2480
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by Toonage
I'd like to believe this guy from Reddit, as it seems he's legit and has recently broken news but these are two doozeys in the past week. Makes it tough to believe but if the news is simply the Flames made a call and that was that? Sure why not.
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Isn't this pretty much standard operating procedure from new found insider stardom, at this point? There's been so many of these guys.
- Have inside source, only post things you're certain of, correctly predict >1 transaction
- internet holds you up as the new king
- feel pressure to provide info to all of your followers - start adding speculation to feed the frenzy
- success rate goes from 100% to 5%, internet not happy
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