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Old 07-21-2021, 10:29 AM   #1
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Figured it was time to start a thread on this, seeing as how it will be on the municipal ballot in October.

It sounds like most scientists recommend staying on standard time year round, as a permanent move to DST would mean very late sunrises in the winter. I think the tourism and entertainment industry is mostly pro permanent DST, but the Flames and Oilers are very much against it as it would mean extremely late puck drop times when either team is on the road on the west coast.
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Old 07-21-2021, 10:34 AM   #2
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I thought this was Provincial jurisdiction?
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Old 07-21-2021, 10:36 AM   #3
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I thought this was Provincial jurisdiction?
It is, but it will be voted on during the municipal elections.
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Daylight savings time sucks, good riddance
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I thought this was Provincial jurisdiction?
The province is hitching some issues for us to vote on when we vote on the municipal election.
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Old 07-21-2021, 10:38 AM   #6
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I thought this was Provincial jurisdiction?
Yes this is provincial and is part of the recent package of proposals including opting out of Canada Pension Plan to start the AB Pension plan and to also opt out of the Equalization Payment system (can Kenney do that unilaterally without the federal government)

For Daylight Savings, there are medical studies that show negative effects from locking onto summer time versus winter time I don't have those articles handy but I remember it sounding important when I came across it a few years ago.

That's the thing, there's a vote to leave the time shift but I don't think they have been smart enough to specify which time we will be permanently on.
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Old 07-21-2021, 10:41 AM   #7
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I'll take 9:30am sunrises and 5:30pm sunsets in the winter over 4:30am sunrises and 8:30 am sunsets in the summer.

DST is better. In the summer, most people are outside longer into the evening, so give us the sunlight. I'm sure boring people would like a little sunshine on their way to work in December, but considering a lot of us start 8 or earlier anyway, screw those late risers!

Most of all I just hope it stops changing. Let us stay on one.
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Old 07-21-2021, 10:48 AM   #8
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Let's just piss off the rest of the country and choose a permanent time in the middle with a 30min offset.
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I don't think Alberta should switch on its own. Saskatchewan doesn't switch and it comes with its own issues.

My first choice is to leave it the way it is. I don't find switching a big deal, and I like light earlier in the morning in the winter and later in the evening in the summer.

If we are going to stick with one permanently, I would like to stay on daylight time. I wouldn't love it being so dark in the mornings in the winter, but it's already dark for too many hours in the winter and that's not going to change. But I don't want super early sun on summer mornings and to have the sun set early in the summer would be the part I would hate the most. I love our long summer evenings.
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I personally like DST and think the problems with the time change are a bit overblown, but I'm fine with taking it away. However, I really don't think permanent DST is a good idea - the sun rising that late is just not good for your body. The time zones exist as they do for a good reason.

Let's look at the differences between standard time and daylight time for the morning sunrise. I'm picking 8am as a cutoff since that is around the start of the workday and school day (where most people are at least headed to one of those at this time). Here is the time span where the sun would rise after 8:00am

Normal time: Nov 19 - Feb 8 = 81 days
Permanent DST: Oct 15 - Mar 10 = 146 days

I don't think most people realize how little light we'd get in the mornings for such a long stretch of time under permanent DST. You are looking at nearly twice as many days of getting up and starting your day in the dark under permanent DST vs normal time.
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Old 07-21-2021, 11:16 AM   #11
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I say leave it as is. Not something I ever think about outside of 5 minutes 2 days a year.
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Old 07-21-2021, 11:21 AM   #13
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I'd only be ok with it if the rest of North America drops it. Otherwise, no I'd rather stick with changing it like the rest of the regions. Working for a company who's head office is in Toronto, it's already a pain in the butt to have a 2 hour difference. It would suck even more if we adopt the skip ahead permanently and become 3 hour difference for half the year.
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I don't get this... it's bad for your health argument. I lived in western Saskatchewan, which is basically on permanent daylight time and we managed. Sunrise times vary a lot, depending on where you live.
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so we have to pick a inexperienced mayor, a bunch of new councilors and a time standard on one ballot.

and before we do that we likely will vote on a new government of canada.

that seems like a lot in a short period of time.
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Old 07-21-2021, 11:50 AM   #16
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I want permanent DST, otherwise let’s adopt whatever other jurisdictions are doing for consistency.
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I'd only be ok with it if the rest of North America drops it. Otherwise, no I'd rather stick with changing it like the rest of the regions. Working for a company who's head office is in Toronto, it's already a pain in the butt to have a 2 hour difference. It would suck even more if we adopt the skip ahead permanently and become 3 hour difference for half the year.
Permanent DST would mean a 1 hour difference from November to March and a 2 hour difference the rest of the year.



As others have said, it makes no sense to do this on our own and be out of sync with the rest of the continent for many months every year. It only makes sense to make any change in conjunction with the other states and provinces that have been discussing this.

A referendum on it is a massive waste of time and money.
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I like the current system. If change is inevitable go for full time DST.
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Permanent DST would mean a 1 hour difference from November to March and a 2 hour difference the rest of the year.

As others have said, it makes no sense to do this on our own and be out of sync with the rest of the continent for many months every year. It only makes sense to make any change in conjunction with the other states and provinces that have been discussing this.

A referendum on it is a massive waste of time and money.

there has been lots of talk of this in bc and i think the government has said it doesn't make sense to change anything unless the states are going to change.
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Let's just piss off the rest of the country and choose a permanent time in the middle with a 30min offset.
Who do you think you are? Newfoundland?!
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