To me, if they just have Snoke as this super power force user that trains and uses Kylo, then we're just following the path of the previous trilogies.
In the OT/PT, Vader wasn't the primary villain, he was a sad broken man who basically embraced his fate and did evil because he believed that maybe he couldn't be redeemed so why even try.
So what did he do, he felt that his actions would eventually lead to a peaceful galaxy and he'd find a way to kill his tormentor in Palpatine and take his place as the Ruler of the Galaxy. From there he would ensure peace ruthlessly.
In a way that was completely Anakin who was straight forward and even ruthless as a Jedi.
Is this the path that we're taking again with Kylo basically being twisted and Subverted by a Force being that promised him power?
We even heard the same language by Hux in his speech before they fired the Death Star III.
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Today is the end of the Republic. The end of a regime that acquiesces to disorder. At this very moment in a system far from here, the New Republic lies to the galaxy while secretly supporting the treachery of the loathsome Resistance. This fierce machine which you have built, upon which we stand will bring an end to the Senate, to their cherished fleet. All remaining systems will bow to the First Order and will remember this as the last day of the Republic!
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Palpatine's speech to the Senate after the end of the Clone Wars
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The New Order of peace has triumphed over the shadowy secrecy of shameful magicians. The direction of our course is clear. I will lead the Empire to glories beyond imagining.
We have been tested, but we have emerged stronger. We move forward as one people: the Imperial citizens of the first Galactic Empire. We will prevail. Ten thousand years of peace begins today.
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Why was Kylo turned, I'm assuming that we'll find out in the next movie. What was his terrible choice.
For Anakin, the big one was that he wanted power, power to save his wife from death. But at the heart of it, Anakin was always a slave. He was a slave as a child, a slave to the Jedi and finally a slave to Palpatine. But his real turn was caused by what he felt was being betrayed by Jedi who no longer followed the Jedi Ideals that I believe he cherished.
Why would Kylo turn on his uncle? Did he feel betrayed by the order? Was he bullied and given Jedi wedgies from across the room? Because if the justification was merely I wanted to follow in my grandfather's footsteps that's not enough.
At least for me.
So that's why I have that scenario in mind, that Snoke isn't what everyone believes he is. I mean realistically Kylo in that movie wasn't all that powerful or even well trained. Sure he was a bully against a guy that couldn't use the force. But that's not true power. Against Rey, she beat him on more then one occassion. Even the act of murdering his father which should have cemented him to the darkside didn't really make him more powerful.
So how much training did Snoke give him. Or did Snoke basically give him some books.
So what if Snoke is just a political opportunist? What if he knows the levers of political power and the power of the lie. "Oh no my young apprentice, the most powerful Sith learned their own way. Its the Sith Way".
So if that's the case then what happens when Kylo finds out to his disappointment that Snoke is just a guy with some parlor tricks and nice pointy toed shoes? A guy that's no good to him in terms of his path to power?
What I would love, love love to see would be Kylo finding a holocron with Palpatine on it, and Palpatine trains him to be a Sith.
What I don't really want to see either is some path that leads to Kyle simply renouncing the darkside and coming back to the light. Because if that happens, if everytime someone in the movies goes dark they come back to the light due to one loving friend of relative. Then Yoda's quote about what the Dark Side is, becomes meaningless.