07-18-2020, 08:10 PM
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#4081
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Oh man, please post that in the Minneapolis thread every single time someone gets upset thinking defund the police means disbanding or undermining police.
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07-18-2020, 08:12 PM
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#4082
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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*It was the Minneapolis thread (sir this is a wendys).
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07-19-2020, 10:35 AM
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#4083
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
*It was the Minneapolis thread (sir this is a wendys).
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Dave's not here man.
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07-19-2020, 10:50 AM
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#4084
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That cartoon does a couple of things well, one intentional, one not so much.
It (intentionally) provides a more sympathetic view of policing and the need to unburden police of so many things that are properly the responsibility of other organizations with different training.
It also (unintentionally) makes clear what a poor choice the slogan "Defund the Police" is for communicating that view.
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07-19-2020, 11:18 AM
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#4085
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How about "police funding redistribution"? More accurate and less inflammatory, no?
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07-19-2020, 11:24 AM
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#4086
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"Re-allocate the delivery of services presently the purview of many police forces to various other service providers" just doesn't quite have the ring you'd wish for.
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07-19-2020, 11:33 AM
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#4087
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Franchise Player
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"Refund" the popo works.
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07-19-2020, 11:50 AM
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#4088
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!
"Refund" the popo works.
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Reno da Popo?
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07-19-2020, 11:55 AM
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#4089
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The problem with putting a complex issue like policing into a small cartoon is that it completely loses any nuances of the issues. I do think that there should be more social workers, nurses and other professionals embedded within police agencies. Able to assist, while still maintaining their safety. The problem though is that when people think that the social worker is a panacea for all of societies problems. Even in that cartoon, look at how social work is up in the corner, with around half of the unnamed issues being pushed over there.
Social workers as a profession are underappreciated for what they do but they are also one of the most burnt out groups of people I have ever encountered and in seeing what they do day-after-day-after-day, I can completely understand why.
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07-19-2020, 12:50 PM
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#4090
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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How about defunding prosecutors budgets so they cant go ego crazy and chase small petty cases or big unwinnable cases.
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07-19-2020, 12:59 PM
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#4091
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Craig McTavish' Merkin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
How about defunding prosecutors budgets so they cant go ego crazy and chase small petty cases or big unwinnable cases.
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They should start by ending elections for prosecutors and sheriffs. They campaign on arrest and conviction numbers. It doesn't matter if they're serving proper justice as long as voters see lots of people going to jail.
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07-19-2020, 01:11 PM
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#4092
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
How about defunding prosecutors budgets so they cant go ego crazy and chase small petty cases or big unwinnable cases.
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That approach ends up with just poor people that cant afford a lawyer being the only people arrested, in the end the cops adjust their tactics to just arrest easy convictions so poor black guy with a dime bag of weed x 100 where as middle class kiddie diddler with decent lawyer doesnt get touched, to some extent its how the US operates now
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07-19-2020, 01:12 PM
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#4093
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DownInFlames
They should start by ending elections for prosecutors and sheriffs. They campaign on arrest and conviction numbers. It doesn't matter if they're serving proper justice as long as voters see lots of people going to jail.
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this times a thousand
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07-19-2020, 02:02 PM
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#4094
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Join Date: May 2004
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"Reduce policing budgets"
There, that wasn't so hard.
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07-19-2020, 03:50 PM
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#4095
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Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
"Reduce policing budgets"
There, that wasn't so hard.
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I think depending on the department it's a bit more nuanced than that. I don't personally support a universally slashing of law enforcement budgets, rather the reallocation of funds to services that actually help people instead of taking them down. If said services are within a department, then so be it.
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07-19-2020, 05:23 PM
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#4096
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I'm sure it depends on the city, but generally the cops have a bit too much money (LA actually stripped $150m out of this 2 weeks ago):
https://twitter.com/user/status/1267148306112643073
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07-19-2020, 06:00 PM
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#4097
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Join Date: Jan 2010
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For comparison Vancouver spends around 20% on the police, if you are spending 54% to police a massively more crime ridden hole then your cops are seriously ####e at what they do and maybe a root and branch pruning is required
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07-19-2020, 11:07 PM
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#4098
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Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
For comparison Vancouver spends around 20% on the police, if you are spending 54% to police a massively more crime ridden hole then your cops are seriously ####e at what they do and maybe a root and branch pruning is required
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LA and Vancouver are Apples and Oranges. There's be a point to be made in those stats but a straight up comparison between those 2 cities, not quite.
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07-19-2020, 11:31 PM
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#4099
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Samonadreau
LA and Vancouver are Apples and Oranges. There's be a point to be made in those stats but a straight up comparison between those 2 cities, not quite.
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In what sense?
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07-19-2020, 11:54 PM
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#4100
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Quote:
Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
In what sense?
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Well one is the gang capital of the world, and one is Vancouver.
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