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Old 07-22-2018, 05:53 PM   #541
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The Als now don't have a 1st round pick in the draft until 2022. It's a real shame what's going on there as I don't know if the CFL can afford to have nobody care about football in that market when nobody cares already in Vancouver and Toronto.
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Old 07-22-2018, 05:57 PM   #542
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How steep of a price is too steep to pay for a bonafide number one in the CFL? It's a gamble they had to take. Not only was this season about to be lost, but they absolutely have nothing at the quarterback position coming up. You can't just let the season and next two seasons fall awaybecause you're too scared to make a deal.
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Old 07-22-2018, 07:43 PM   #543
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Dang, the Als must really like Manziel...

Feel bad for those TiCat fans who purchased Manziel jerseys...

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Old 07-22-2018, 09:21 PM   #544
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Didn't Manziel play for Mike Sherman in college?

Edit: I guess he recruited but did not coach him

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Old 07-22-2018, 10:28 PM   #545
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So whats the best case for Montreal here?

A) Manziel craps the bed and leaves and they lose what will likely be 2 future 1st overall picks.

B) Manziel is just ok and Als are still mediocre with no 1st rounders in next 3 drafts.

C) Manziel does really well and bolts to the NFL next year and they're out of 2 first rounders.

Just a ridiculous trade from Als point of view, only thing I see is some quick jersey sales and publicity. After that? nothing.
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Old 07-22-2018, 10:38 PM   #546
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I'm guessing Kavis Reed is more worried about keeping his job two weeks from now than what might happen two years from now.


Also wouldn't be surprised if there was pressure up the chain as well (they also hired a new President and CEO when Reed was hired)...
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Old 07-22-2018, 10:45 PM   #547
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Ya I get that but someone has to take responsibility with respect to whats happening in Montreal right now. Like Erick Estrada said, CFL needs a healthy Montreal team, stuff like this will destroy it.

To be the worst team and not have a 1st rounder next 3 drafts would be frustrating,
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Old 07-22-2018, 10:51 PM   #548
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I dont think Manziel will have much or any interest from the NFL no matter how well he plays.
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Old 07-22-2018, 10:52 PM   #549
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Manziel signed a two year deal.
Nor sure if he has an out clause after 1 year?
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Old 07-22-2018, 11:05 PM   #550
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Manziel signed a two year deal.
Nor sure if he has an out clause after 1 year?
He doesn’t.
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Old 07-23-2018, 08:02 AM   #551
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Als had to do this to sell tickets at the very least. Interest was waning.

The CFL draft does not compare to other drafts.
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Als had to do this to sell tickets at the very least. Interest was waning.

The CFL draft does not compare to other drafts.
CFL draft is the basic source to your Canadian players who you have to start. Those are going to be high picks. The novelty is going to wear off pretty fast if/when he struggles.
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I dont think Manziel will have much or any interest from the NFL no matter how well he plays.
Hard to say really because he's only 25 and if he shows he can be clean for two years in Canada a team may think he's worth bringing into camp as it is a league after all where Josh McCown is still playing at 39. Also don't discount the XFL as the CFL will lose talent to that league.
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CFL draft is the basic source to your Canadian players who you have to start. Those are going to be high picks. The novelty is going to wear off pretty fast if/when he struggles.

I take your point, but I would not say a first round pick in the CFL is as critical as in other sports. First, there are only 9 teams; without a first round pick, you could still be picking 10th. Second, the draft is used mainly to grab O/L - 9 of the top 14 in the 2018 draft were O/L. You can still get them in the second round or free agency.
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I take your point, but I would not say a first round pick in the CFL is as critical as in other sports. First, there are only 9 teams; without a first round pick, you could still be picking 10th. Second, the draft is used mainly to grab O/L - 9 of the top 14 in the 2018 draft were O/L. You can still get them in the second round or free agency.
It's still pretty critical that you accumulate quality Canadian depth as it's part of the formula of why the Stamps have been good for so long. Teams that lack Canadian depth struggle as you can't hide those players on the field.
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Man, the Als (Kavis Reed) sure are desperate as they have acquired over the hill Adarius Bowman from Winnipeg for a conditional 8th round pick.
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Old 07-23-2018, 03:09 PM   #558
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Bowman is pretty much done and carries a hefty contract. I know contracts aren’t guaranteed but I have no idea why Reed wants the guy even for that low draft choice. He may have negative value.
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Old 07-23-2018, 04:51 PM   #559
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Yeah he's not been the same player since coming back from injury last season. I would have thought the Bombers would have given him more time to work into the offense given they paid him a $40k bonus but it appears they may think he's done as well and were just happy another team wanted his contract.
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Shawn Lemon traded to BC.
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