07-11-2020, 09:04 AM
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#4041
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Crown Royal
I think it happens with every interracial couple, at least sometimes. I think the races do make a difference, as do locations. For example, when I had a Japanese girlfriend, we didn't get all that many cross looks. Same with dating a Hispanic woman.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I feel like Calgary has a fairly large Indian and middle Eastern population, so I think that would help with the normalcy of that type of interracial relationship. I also found I got fewer cross looks in Calgary than in Lethbridge, because in Calgary it is more common as there is a larger black population. I think what it comes down to in many cases, is people are scared of what is different and the more people are exposed to something, the less different it becomes.
I also think you finding the humor in something rather than choosing to be offended is an excellent way to handle things.
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Yeah I think it's just how often people are exposed to, and it doesn't even have to be a couples thing. In the early 90s my mom and I walked into a McDonald's on the highway in Montana and there were a lot of looks. Also in the late 90s I went to a wedding in Creston, BC. I spent 2 days there and it was looks and comments everywhere. Going for lunch in a group or the wedding itself, I might have been the first Asian they have seen in a while, if not ever. Even now, it's certainly different outside the big cities when I'm traveling by car.
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07-11-2020, 11:26 AM
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#4042
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Does sex play a factor at all in this? Would a white man and a minority woman be looked at differently than a minority male and a white female?
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Eakins wasn't a bad coach, the team just had 2 bad years, they should've been more patient.
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07-11-2020, 11:54 AM
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#4043
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Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14
Does sex play a factor at all in this? Would a white man and a minority woman be looked at differently than a minority male and a white female?
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I think it does to a degree, at least in the black community black men with white women is frowned upon by black women, because black women feel white women are "taking the good ones". I don't know if this is racist, or more the fact that many feel that white folks are already privileged, so they don't need to take what is ours.
As for black women and white men, I can't really speak on it, I just know there is much more interracial porn with black men and white women than the inverse.
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07-11-2020, 12:53 PM
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#4044
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14
Does sex play a factor at all in this? Would a white man and a minority woman be looked at differently than a minority male and a white female?
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It's reversed in this case. It would be looked upon differently by a group of non-whites. Only the minorities care about gender dynamics. Asian men especially first borns, have tremendous pressure to marry within and carry the bloodline. Asian girls can pretty much do whatever.
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07-11-2020, 01:27 PM
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#4045
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by driveway
The question now is if his racism informed the politics of the show, or if the politics of the show informed his racism ... ‘cause it’s only one of those two things.
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I'm pretty sure it did.
CNN cross referenced posts from particular days and was able to show that the topics he posted about and the language he used often popped up on Carlson's show on those same days.
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07-11-2020, 02:53 PM
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#4046
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by Crown Royal
I think it does to a degree, at least in the black community black men with white women is frowned upon by black women, because black women feel white women are "taking the good ones". I don't know if this is racist, or more the fact that many feel that white folks are already privileged, so they don't need to take what is ours.
As for black women and white men, I can't really speak on it, I just know there is much more interracial porn with black men and white women than the inverse.
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A lot of my female black friends tell me that there is also a culture of black men being upset about black women being with other communities. It annoys them a lot and has been brought up in conversation a few times.
From my personal experience being an Asian man who dates everyone, I can definitely say there are more stares when I'm dating a girl who isn't Asian and I haven't noticed it being any more when my exes were black vs white vs Latina.
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07-11-2020, 02:55 PM
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#4047
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
It's reversed in this case. It would be looked upon differently by a group of non-whites. Only the minorities care about gender dynamics. Asian men especially first borns, have tremendous pressure to marry within and carry the bloodline. Asian girls can pretty much do whatever.
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This isn't true. I'm a first born Asian male and there's no such "tremendous pressure" on me. I think you're mistaking your own beliefs and experience as how things are for a group.
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07-11-2020, 02:55 PM
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#4048
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Craig McTavish' Merkin
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The ###### nozzles who brandished guns to protect their "property" have had their home searched and a weapon seized.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-g...-idUSKCN24C0L3
If you look into the McCloskey's they are pretty horrible people who will sue anyone to get what they want. They're the type who give personal injury lawyers a bad name. Hopefully they get the book thrown at them.
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07-11-2020, 03:24 PM
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#4049
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by activeStick
This isn't true. I'm a first born Asian male and there's no such "tremendous pressure" on me. I think you're mistaking your own beliefs and experience as how things are for a group.
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You have very cool progressive parents then!
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07-11-2020, 03:31 PM
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#4050
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by activeStick
This isn't true. I'm a first born Asian male and there's no such "tremendous pressure" on me. I think you're mistaking your own beliefs and experience as how things are for a group.
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Wait, are you suggesting that your racial identity really doesn't say much of anything useful about the struggles you've faced in your life, and shouldn't be used to assume anything important about you as a person? That a person's individual experience can't be extrapolated from simplistic and superficial observations about race and gender? That just maybe those immutable attributes shouldn't be what everyone is fixated on at all times, or sit at the center of our political and social discourse? These are shocking suggestions.
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07-11-2020, 04:19 PM
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#4051
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
You have very cool progressive parents then!
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There is however tremendous pressure to get married!
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07-11-2020, 04:26 PM
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#4052
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
Yeah I think it's just how often people are exposed to, and it doesn't even have to be a couples thing. In the early 90s my mom and I walked into a McDonald's on the highway in Montana and there were a lot of looks. Also in the late 90s I went to a wedding in Creston, BC. I spent 2 days there and it was looks and comments everywhere. Going for lunch in a group or the wedding itself, I might have been the first Asian they have seen in a while, if not ever. Even now, it's certainly different outside the big cities when I'm traveling by car.
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LOL I remember when I moved to Calgary from Saskatoon in 2000, I would get a bunch of second looks when I would stop in the small towns along the way. As an East Indian I felt like I had just parked a spaceship at the gas pump instead of a Corolla. It has definitely gotten better as the diversity has increased in the smaller towns but it was a shock to me at first. It felt like those old westerns where a dude walks in the saloon and everything just stops.
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07-11-2020, 04:33 PM
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#4053
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Originally Posted by activeStick
There is however tremendous pressure to get married!
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I'm not sure that's a cultural thing, that's a parents thing. I know very few people of any race that don't feel that pressure from parents, especially their mom.
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07-11-2020, 06:49 PM
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#4054
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crown Royal
I'm not sure that's a cultural thing, that's a parents thing. I know very few people of any race that don't feel that pressure from parents, especially their mom.
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The only pressure I ever felt from my mum was to get the eff out of the house once I'd left school 'go get your own place and bring your tarts back there' that she wasn't keen on my girlfriend was clearly a factor
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07-11-2020, 06:50 PM
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#4055
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crown Royal
I'm not sure that's a cultural thing, that's a parents thing. I know very few people of any race that don't feel that pressure from parents, especially their mom.
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Lol I can confirm there is pressure on white people to get married too! Theres more pressure for sure from my side (mom) than from her side.
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Originally Posted by oilboimcdavid
Eakins wasn't a bad coach, the team just had 2 bad years, they should've been more patient.
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07-11-2020, 07:13 PM
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#4056
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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
The only pressure I ever felt from my mum was to get the eff out of the house once I'd left school 'go get your own place and bring your tarts back there' that she wasn't keen on my girlfriend was clearly a factor
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After dealing with you on here, I see her point
But yeah, it's not completely universal, but it certainly transcends any so called race barrier.
That's also something I love about sports, while the athletes and fans may not necessarily be non-racist, overall I do think sports bring people together that would never interact otherwise. In '04 I went up to Calgary for a few of the games and go on the red mile, I've never been hugged and high-fived by so many white people in my life. At that moment I think the only color most people cared about was red, and it was a beautiful thing.
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07-11-2020, 09:36 PM
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#4057
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Toronto
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I saw a short sneak peek of "Above the Law" from CBC Docs on yesterday's The National and learned about Godfred Addai's case in Calgary 6 years ago. Man, the story is so horrible and it makes me so sad to hear Godfred recount what happened to him for no reason other than being unlucky to have a racist white cop arrive to his scene while he was freezing cold after other cops picked him up and dropped him off in the middle of nowhere. I suppose they wanted him to suffer a bit? Like many have said, we're not much better in Canada.
I'm so glad Godfred's lawyer was able to get video footage from Calgary Police helicopters of the incident showing the officer kneeing him repeatedly to his head despite Godfred not attacking and in cuffs. Standing in trial against three cops supporting each other, without cameras would have no doubt seen him found guilty.
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07-11-2020, 09:56 PM
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#4058
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Want another idea about how bad Canada can be? Read up on the Starlight Tours
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07-11-2020, 11:21 PM
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#4059
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by Crown Royal
Want another idea about how bad Canada can be? Read up on the Starlight Tours
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Well, that was horrible to read about.
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07-11-2020, 11:45 PM
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#4060
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Originally Posted by activeStick
Well, that was horrible to read about.
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Yeah, it's pretty ####ed up.
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