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Old 04-30-2024, 12:37 PM   #821
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I imagine once the Coyotes got the reputation for not paying their bills, they probably weren't getting the greatest service either.
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Old 04-30-2024, 12:51 PM   #822
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There's a reason they call him the deadbeat billionaire.
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How did this not happen years ago?
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Old 04-30-2024, 01:49 PM   #824
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How did this not happen years ago?
Bettman's stubborn.
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Old 04-30-2024, 01:53 PM   #825
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I'm going to take my Mortgage Statement, cross out the amounts and payments. Write down my own numbers and send it back to the lender. Can't believe I didn't think of this sooner.
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Old 04-30-2024, 02:49 PM   #826
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Where was that stubbornness when the Thrashers moved to Winnipeg?
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Old 04-30-2024, 02:57 PM   #827
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Where was that stubbornness when the Thrashers moved to Winnipeg?
There was no owner willing to own the team and no arena. Atlanta Spirit Group wanted them out. Poof!

Look at the Coyotes, no NHL rink and an owner the league wanted out. Poof!
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Old 04-30-2024, 03:08 PM   #828
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Gonna have a hard time convincing me the league was the bad guy here. That owner sucked out loud and is gonna camp on the coyotes name until he loses the rights to that too. Fool ass couldn’t get an arena built when there was an actual team there but we think someone’s gonna get excited to build an arena in the desert both without a team and for a guy who’s a renowned skinflint? Yeah sure that’s gonna happen
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Old 04-30-2024, 04:40 PM   #829
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Gonna have a hard time convincing me the league was the bad guy here. That owner sucked out loud and is gonna camp on the coyotes name until he loses the rights to that too. Fool ass couldn’t get an arena built when there was an actual team there but we think someone’s gonna get excited to build an arena in the desert both without a team and for a guy who’s a renowned skinflint? Yeah sure that’s gonna happen
Who's saying the league was the bad guy? It's universally accepted that the NHL did the right thing.
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Old 04-30-2024, 06:13 PM   #830
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Great write up on the process, it's a miracle that the Coyotes had a single fan throughout with these scumbag owners that have made their way through AZ
Well fans will understandably tend to believe what they want to believe when it comes to their favorite teams. Just three weeks ago this was your response to a comment I made about Meruelo not paying his bills.

"This has proven to be false. It wasn't due to any ability to pay bills it was a clerical and in my opinion strategic errors on the part of a new ownership group taking over a business they had no history with. This is also an owner who's finances have been verified by the City of Tempe City Government and all City council members approved of."

He duped a few people.
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Old 05-01-2024, 08:36 AM   #831
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Well fans will understandably tend to believe what they want to believe when it comes to their favorite teams. Just three weeks ago this was your response to a comment I made about Meruelo not paying his bills.

"This has proven to be false. It wasn't due to any ability to pay bills it was a clerical and in my opinion strategic errors on the part of a new ownership group taking over a business they had no history with. This is also an owner who's finances have been verified by the City of Tempe City Government and all City council members approved of."

He duped a few people.
I think the way these guys do business is generally a back alley/mob mentality. They are truly unfit to own and run a community asset/sports franchise in my opinion.

I'd prefer waiting an additional 5 years to get some new ownership group bringing a team to AZ. It's going to involve some poison swallowing if Alex Meruelo gets a new arena moving and built.

With that said, I don't think this group is competent enough to get it done. They've burned this state
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Old 05-01-2024, 08:53 AM   #832
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Where was that stubbornness when the Thrashers moved to Winnipeg?
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There was no owner willing to own the team and no arena. Atlanta Spirit Group wanted them out. Poof!

Look at the Coyotes, no NHL rink and an owner the league wanted out. Poof!
The Thrashers literally didn't have a place to play the following season.
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Old 05-01-2024, 09:16 AM   #833
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ESPN has an article about how the whole move to Salt Lake came to be behind the scenes

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/...e-arizona-utah

Some interesting quotes:
Why would they take the Printer and Photocopier??

I mean...most of those things are worthless anyways...what, was the coach printing too much? Its like a penny a page.

Did they abscond with his fax machine too??
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Here is the first round of names for voting!

Utah Blast
Utah Powder
Utah Mammoth
Utah Mountaineers
Utah Black Diamonds
Utah Swarm
Utah Yeti
Utah Caribou
Utah Frost
Utah Venom
Utah Squall
Utah Outlaws
Utah Hive
Utah Freeze
Utah Fury
Utah HC
Utah Glaciers
Utah Canyons
Utah Blizzard
Utah Ice

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Old 05-08-2024, 08:02 PM   #835
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Utah Freeze is the best sounding one imo
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Old 05-08-2024, 08:03 PM   #836
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They're all bad lol.
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It's perplexing how a seemingly "hip' young owner can suggest, with a straight face, that most, if not all these names, are suitable for a long lasting brand for a major professional sports team. "Blast"? They are most suitable for 70-80s MISL teams.


Sheds some light on why the Jazz stayed the Jazz all these years after the move from New Orleans.
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Old 05-08-2024, 08:32 PM   #838
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Those all sound like AHL names, except for Utah HC


Utah Powder has meme potential
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Old 05-08-2024, 08:49 PM   #839
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whatever they choose, it will not be implemented until the 25/26 season

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For the inaugural season in 2024-25, the team will wear jerseys that display “Utah.” The team name will be implemented for the 2025-26 season, along with the logo, mascot and colors.

"Once the team name has been selected, SEG will work diligently to craft the team identity – logo, mascot, colors, and other branding elements – which will debut for the 2025-26 NHL season," the SEG said.
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Old 05-08-2024, 09:00 PM   #840
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Utah Powder is the only answer here.
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