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Old 02-01-2018, 11:36 AM   #3721
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/01/us/lo...ing/index.html

Does two people shot constitute a mass shooting?
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Old 02-01-2018, 01:07 PM   #3722
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Does two people shot constitute a mass shooting?
No, there has to be four or more dead for that name.

This would be a school shooting, though.
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No, there has to be four or more dead for that name.

This would be a school shooting, though.
Dead? I was pretty sure it was four or more shot?
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Old 02-01-2018, 01:47 PM   #3724
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Seems there isn't really an official definition and that apparently complicates things in the way the media reports.

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One strict definition used in the past by the federal government says at least four victims must be killed. Much broader criteria requires at least four victims be injured, though not necessarily killed. Other definitions land somewhere in the middle.
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There’s no legal definition, and as prominent gun violence researcher Garen Wintemute of the University of California at Davis told us, "there isn’t a right and wrong here."
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Old 02-01-2018, 02:05 PM   #3725
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Wow. Apparently it can take weeks to match a gun's serial number to its owner.

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/...tracing-center



This is incredible. How has nobody in the US dealt with this problem? Just incredibly stupid, wow.

And another AR-15 used in the car wash shooting linked above. Why are these still available? Get rid of them already.

It is only going to continue to get worse.
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This is incredible. How has nobody in the US dealt with this problem?
It's being dealt with exactly how the NRA wants it dealt with.
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Who would have thought that only killing two people would make you an underachiever.
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Old 02-02-2018, 06:00 AM   #3728
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Wow. Apparently it can take weeks to match a gun's serial number to its owner.

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/...tracing-center



That doesn't seem true at all. Granted it is 6am and I'm barely awake, but this seems like a case for snopes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Tracing_Center
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Old 02-02-2018, 06:42 AM   #3729
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That doesn't seem true at all. Granted it is 6am and I'm barely awake, but this seems like a case for snopes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Tracing_Center
Nope, its accurate. ATF is hobbled by not having a unified database for their records.

https://www.thetrace.org/2016/08/atf...ses-explained/

The NRA is a very powerful lobby that keeps legislators in their pockets and prevents systems being put in place where national databases would bring all of this information together.

https://www.publicintegrity.org/2013...eleaguered-atf

http://www.latimes.com/business/hilt...nap-story.html

https://www.wired.com/2015/10/americ...ood-data-guns/

http://abcnews.go.com/US/federal-gov...ry?id=50300379
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In a high school no less.
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Obligatory repost of Dan Hodges' Sandy Hook tweet.

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"Thoughts and prayers"
"Don't politicize tragedies"
"A good guy with a gun would have prevented this"
"Now is not the time to discuss this"

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"Don't politicize tragedies"
"A good guy with a gun would have prevented this"
"Now is not the time to discuss this"
"False Flag"

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It's unfortunate that my literal response to reading this just now is just shaking my head and moving on. No real urge to even seek out a news site and see what happened exactly. How sad is that? It's on par with the "suicide bomb in Middle East" stories now.
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They just showed a shot from a chopper in a neighborhood close to the school...a kid being shackled (feet and hands) and loaded into a car after coming out of a house.

Dont know if he is the shooter or what....but looks that way.

Senator that represents the district confirming "multiple fatalities".
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In the past week or so there has been 2 mass shootings, 3 incidents of cop killings and a high school shooting.
God bless the NRA
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CNN saying shooter still at large.
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They are way behind.

Sheriff has confirmed suspected shooter is in custody.
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It's unfortunate that my literal response to reading this just now is just shaking my head and moving on. No real urge to even seek out a news site and see what happened exactly. How sad is that? It's on par with the "suicide bomb in Middle East" stories now.
Had the exact same reaction as you...saw this thread pop up and opened it up, flipped over to CNN for 30sec, back to Olympic replay.
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