Daylight Saving Time

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Buff

You're the first person I've ever seen or hear say that.

I've never actually heard someone complain about their kids. I only ever read about the complaints online.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Weitz

I've never actually heard someone complain about their kids. I only ever read about the complaints online.

####, I hear people complain about their kids all the time. Hell, I'll even complain about your kids if you want.

[troutman]

The Order of Time - Carlo Rovelli

https://blog.12min.com/the-order-of-time-pdf-summary/

In the course of time, the events of the universe succeed each other in an orderly way: pasts, presents, futures. The past is fixed, the future open… And yet all of this has turned out to be false. One after another, the characteristic features of time have proved to be approximations, mistakes determined by our perspective, just like the flatness of the Earth or the revolving of the sun.

Let’s start with perhaps the most fundamental aspect of time: it, we believe, passes everywhere at the very same speed. This is, however, completely wrong.

Gravity is just a side-effect of large bodies modifying the structure of space-time between them.

The difference between past and future, between cause and effect, between memory and hope, between regret and intention… in the elementary laws that describe the mechanisms of the world, there is no such difference.

The only law which distinguishes the past from the future is the Second law of thermodynamics, which states that the total entropy of a system can never decrease over time. In plainer words, if nothing else changes, heat cannot pass from a cold body to a hot one. In essence, this means that time is fundamentally interrelated with heat.

The word “now” means nothing beyond your approximate surroundings: in universal terms, now is a non-existent concept.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Buff

You're the first person I've ever seen or hear say that.

My kids never had an issue.

I heard it’s a measure of good parenting how your kids accommodate time change.

As for me as I age the change really bugs me, but I want light in the mornings in winter so want standard time year round.

[transplant99]

I love the extra light at night in the summer....im a hard keep it in place!

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by GGG

I heard it’s a measure of good parenting how your kids accommodate time change.

Probably. My kids had a terrible time with it up to about age 5.

We always had really strict schedules and they had a hard time changing.

I still think its ridiculous and will vote for no more time changes. You'd never start this system now if we didn't have it, and one of the other parenting lessons people are bad at is, "just because others are doing something stupid doesn't mean you should too."

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by transplant99

I love the extra light at night in the summer....im a hard keep it in place!

You're in luck. Literally neither option on the table would change the amount of sun in the summer.



And I can 3rd/4th the impact on young kids is a nightmare. Toddlers up at 530/6am all of the sudden become 430/5am to their internal (and hard to change) clocks. Its the absolute worst. I am not looking forward to November again

[Ironhorse]

Never had much issues with our kids. How do any of you people who complain about their kids, and the one hour time difference, travel outside the province with your kids, or take them on a vacation? Must be an unmanageable nightmare...

People need to remember where we live (hint - it is not near the equator). If you keep daylight time, then have fun having the sun come up at 9:15 am in winter (and your kids going to school in the dark). If you keep standard time, have fun with sunrise at 3:30am in summer. If only there was an easy system that would give you the best of both worlds...

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Buff

You're the first person I've ever seen or hear say that.

Too many parents too invested in their kids sleep schedules. it takes them like a day and half to adjust, they can be bearish Monday morning in the spring, then it's back to normal on Tuesday.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Ducay

You're in luck. Literally neither option on the table would change the amount of sun in the summer.



And I can 3rd/4th the impact on young kids is a nightmare. Toddlers up at 530/6am all of the sudden become 430/5am to their internal (and hard to change) clocks. Its the absolute worst. I am not looking forward to November again

Thanks tips.

Its factual that when the hour is changed that it is light later when looking at a clock, darker longer in the morning.

It makes it great for camping/lake life etc especially.

[puffnstuff]

When our kids were little we just adjusted their bedtimes by 15 minutes a day for a few days before the time changes, never had an issue.

Im voting to keep it the same. I like late summer days.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

When our kids were little we just adjusted their bedtimes by 15 minutes a day for a few days before the time changes, never had an issue.

Im voting to keep it the same. I like late summer days.

You would still get this. It would only change our winter hours. So you get light later in the day. I think I prefer that, because it's dark in the morning on the way to work no matter what. An extra hour of darkness in the morning, for an extra hour of light after work sounds good to me.

[puffnstuff]

What time do you go to work in the summer that its dark in the morning?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

What time do you go to work in the summer that its dark in the morning?

Referring to winter hours at that point of my sentence!

[Scroopy Noopers]

The worst part about the time change is hearing “Daylight SavingS Time” said 9/10 times.

[puffnstuff]

Ah, i guess i read that wrong Fuzz. But I like how it is now with the time change. Still voting to keep it.

[gasman]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Thanks tips.

Its factual that when the hour is changed that it is light later when looking at a clock, darker longer in the morning.

It makes it great for camping/lake life etc especially.

Neither option impacts the time during the summer. It only impacts time in the winter. It doesn't matter which way the vote goes...daylight at certain "clock times" will not change from March to November.


I would vote to keep the system we have now. I don't really want it to be dark until after 9 in the morning.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by gasman

Neither option impacts the time during the summer. It only impacts time in the winter. It doesn't matter which way the vote goes...daylight at certain "clock times" will not change from March to November.


I would vote to keep the system we have now. I don't really want it to be dark until after 9 in the morning.

This is the argument that I just don’t follow. When DST moved back by a couple weeks (George W. Bush), did you see any impact? In todays world that time being dark is of almost no consequence. I could see the point before all of the lights we have now, but today it barely matters.

[gasman]

Originally Posted by Slava

This is the argument that I just don’t follow. When DST moved back by a couple weeks (George W. Bush), did you see any impact? In todays world that time being dark is of almost no consequence. I could see the point before all of the lights we have now, but today it barely matters.

Unless you work outside, or enjoy activities in the mornings on weekends that happen to be outside.

I don't feel passionately either way, I just prefer it to stay the same.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by gasman

Unless you work outside, or enjoy activities in the mornings on weekends that happen to be outside.

I don't feel passionately either way, I just prefer it to stay the same.

I definitely get that, in the summer. But in January? There's a notable difference on the paths near my house all winter, let alone the mornings. I just can't see a reason not to stop changing the clocks at this point.