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Old 06-18-2016, 11:54 AM   #421
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The clause is more for if they get fired.

For example Hartley was being paid by the Flames $1.75 million / year. If he were to be hired by another team for $1.5 million / year, the Flames would be on the hook for $250k.

It is pretty common for head coaches and it essentially guarantees the contract like they do for players. As to why would a team agree to it, it has become customary. Some team long ago gave it to one coach as an added incentive to sign with them, then other sought after coaches wanted it...
If it only applies on dismissal by the club, then that makes a lot of sense.
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Old 06-18-2016, 01:27 PM   #422
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I think the most important revelation from the press conference is that Gulutzan called Monahan "Mono" instead of "Mony".

https://youtu.be/Q2IW2ZrN5SQ?t=397

I'll never accept "Mony".
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Old 06-18-2016, 03:37 PM   #423
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Not sure if this has already been posted. If anyone has an hour to kill, here's how Gulutzan coaches and develops.

Some interesting points:
-Says he's not great at developing skill
-Prefers to focus on the defensemen
-Seems to demonstrate quite a bit of knowledge on the coaching systems around the NHL
-Likes to develop styles based on the attributes of the roster
-Player development is even more important than winning
-Gelinas also spoke in this conference


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Old 06-19-2016, 12:24 PM   #424
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I think the most important revelation from the press conference is that Gulutzan called Monahan "Mono" instead of "Mony".

https://youtu.be/Q2IW2ZrN5SQ?t=397

I'll never accept "Mony".

I feel discriminated.
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Old 06-19-2016, 09:31 PM   #425
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His experience would seem to indicate that the Flames will likely play a more defensive style going forward which is a good thing, albeit maybe less exciting
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Old 06-19-2016, 10:18 PM   #426
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The clause is more for if they get fired.

For example Hartley was being paid by the Flames $1.75 million / year. If he were to be hired by another team for $1.5 million / year, the Flames would be on the hook for $250k.

It is pretty common for head coaches and it essentially guarantees the contract like they do for players. As to why would a team agree to it, it has become customary. Some team long ago gave it to one coach as an added incentive to sign with them, then other sought after coaches wanted it...
Has it been confirmed that was Hartley's salary under his most recent deal? If I recall correctly it was a 2-year deal so that means he has only 1 year left?

I know with the hiring of Babcock he had stated one of his motives was to move up coaching salaries, benefits and improve transparency for fellow coaches.

Always wondered what a guy like Burke potentially made? I think his Toronto deal was 6 year/ $3 mil per
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Old 06-19-2016, 11:33 PM   #427
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I think the most important revelation from the press conference is that Gulutzan called Monahan "Mono" instead of "Mony".

https://youtu.be/Q2IW2ZrN5SQ?t=397

I'll never accept "Mony".
I'm glad I'm not the only one.
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Old 06-20-2016, 01:13 AM   #428
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His experience would seem to indicate that the Flames will likely play a more defensive style going forward which is a good thing, albeit maybe less exciting
More defensive? If you imply more passive, then no. More structured, and trying less to block shots, more so to avoid a situation where you have to block shots, which is the last option in terms of defence.

So theoretically more exciting.

If you believe what he says, of course. Which I do at the moment.
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I could see the pairings much the same as we ended the last season. Say for example Gio with Engelland, Brodie with Hamilton and Wideman (if he's still here) with Kevin. This helps to put a physical player with a playmaker so we'll be able to clear the front of the net, break up the cycle and puts a right shot with a left shot.
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Old 06-20-2016, 09:50 PM   #430
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Apparently Gaudreau's former junior coach Jim Montgomery was a strong candidate

http://www.calgarysun.com/2016/06/20...s-junior-coach

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One of the most interesting of all the finalists for the Calgary Flames coaching job is Jim Montgomery, who is also known as Johnny Gaudreau’s junior coach.

A former NHL player who has coached Denver University the last three seasons, the 46-year-old Montgomery was Gaudreau’s coach in 2010/11 at Dubuque where he led the Fighting Saints to a national championship.

Given how few college coaches have ever made the jump to an NHL head coaching gig, one wonders if perhaps his relationship and success with Gaudreau had something to do with the Flames’ interest.

“You don’t hire a coach for one player — you’ve got to coach 23,” shot down Flames GM Brad Treliving.

“He’s a good coach, a good young guy. He’s got a real good track record and I’ve been impressed with him.”
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DU's program has consistently improved under Montgomery, I think he would he been a good choice as well.
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Old 06-21-2016, 12:36 AM   #432
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Apparently Gaudreau's former junior coach Jim Montgomery was a strong candidate

http://www.calgarysun.com/2016/06/20...s-junior-coach

One of the most interesting of all the finalists for the Calgary Flames coaching job is Jim Montgomery, who is also known as Johnny Gaudreau’s junior coach.

A former NHL player who has coached Denver University the last three seasons, the 46-year-old Montgomery was Gaudreau’s coach in 2010/11 at Dubuque where he led the Fighting Saints to a national championship.

Given how few college coaches have ever made the jump to an NHL head coaching gig, one wonders if perhaps his relationship and success with Gaudreau had something to do with the Flames’ interest.

“You don’t hire a coach for one player — you’ve got to coach 23,” shot down Flames GM Brad Treliving.

“He’s a good coach, a good young guy. He’s got a real good track record and I’ve been impressed with him.”
No, you're right, you don't hire a coach for one player, but when you're deep in long term contract negotiations with one of the most naturally skilled players in the league, and, one of the most naturally skilled Flames ever, you interview that player's former coach for one player if you think it may help in said negotiations.

As well, make sure the rumors are floated around that his good friend Kevin Hayes could make it here somehow, and whatever else it may take to show goodwill and have JG more agreeable to his long term situation here...and hopefully shave off some $ for the cap.

Well played by the Flames though; whatever it takes to assure Gaudreau that they're going to take care of him.
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Old 08-31-2016, 07:00 PM   #433
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Good article on the new head coach.

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“So I’m generally a happy person. I’m good. I don’t like to be grouchy or miserable every day.

“But if I get mad … I get mad. There’s no middle ground.

“I’ve heard people say: ‘Glen? Oh, good guy. Nice guy. Good communicator. Patient.

“‘But push him far enough and … snap.’”

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So the two years in Dallas helped me tremendously in learning this league. I wanted to stay in the league, so the three years as an assistant in Vancouver - when I could’ve gone to the AHL as a head coach - really settled me in the league.

“And now, this time around, there are no surprises for me.”



http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=891791
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Meh, people are excited now but you never know if he works out or doesn't until after two seasons.
Bump.

Interesting to see the impressions after GG was introduced. Naturally, people will like and give the benefit of the doubt. Talked about stuff like playing as 5 man units, which did happen and fast transition, which most definitely did not.

MarkGio's post was most prescient.

The only sensible position is to sort of wait and see.
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Tried to read through old comments but after the 30th post suggesting a stupid nickname I gave up.
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Ahh, the good old days when not everything was squished into a megathread.
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Ahh, the good old days when not everything was squished into a megathread.
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Ahh, the good old days when we no longer had any threads about Glen Gulutzan because we had moved on.
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His experience would seem to indicate that the Flames will likely play a more defensive style going forward which is a good thing, albeit maybe less exciting
This post was bang on about less exciting.
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This post was bang on about less exciting.
I think less exciting is just a touch of an understatement...
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