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Old 07-25-2020, 10:24 AM   #41
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Is this really necessary?
Yes.

It's called an analogy and is meant to describe something in another, more blatant, way.

Are you really offended?

Good grief.
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Old 07-25-2020, 10:26 AM   #42
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Not sure if they’ll be on the ice, but today is listed as another training camp day.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1286828110155898880
I find that odd only because i thought that upon arrival all teams and personnel were to be tested and cleared before being allowed into the arena.

I suppose the league has the ability to see that happen in 48 hours but that is a lot of tests to administer and analyze in a short time frame.
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Old 07-25-2020, 10:47 AM   #43
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I don’t think you split duties in the Edmonton game as your starter needs one full game IMO.

No matter who it is, it’s got to be the shortest of leashes.
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I don’t think you split duties in the Edmonton game as your starter needs one full game IMO.

No matter who it is, it’s got to be the shortest of leashes.
I agree.

Based only on what we have seen from limited viewing of scrimmages, that has to be Talbot.

Unless Rittich is blowing them away in practices, im not sure how else they can go with him.

Either way though, its the single biggest concern to beating the Jets in a 5 game showdown.
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Old 07-25-2020, 11:10 AM   #45
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The goalie thing in Calgary is a tough one.

Talbot's numbers are better, but I've always felt there is more guessing and the puck hitting him than Rittich (I'm not a goalie guy so happy to be wrong).

The team plays better in front of Talbot, which could be as simple as Rittich getting the tougher matchups, but out of the 63 goalies that have played 550 or more minutes only four have had it easier when it comes to high danger chances against per 60 minutes than Talbot.

Should be said that Rittich isn't exactly hard done by as the Flames don't give up that much, he's ranked 40th for high danger workload.

I honestly don't know what the answer is ... I think both of them are pretty average at best.
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Oh and Brossoit is 3rd, Hellebucyk 11th for goalies with toughest workload.

Once again ... Jets a tire fire
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Yes.

It's called an analogy and is meant to describe something in another, more blatant, way.

Are you really offended?

Good grief.
Offended? No.

Is your analogy cringeworthy? Definitely.
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Offended? No.

Is your analogy cringeworthy? Definitely.
Reminds me of:
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I have faith in Rittich where many don't seem to. When he is on he is very good. Usually looks great to start the season, I'd be giving him the start over Talbot.

Nice thing is no matter who starts, the other guy will be pissed off and hungry (Like a sex worker? Am I doing this right?) waiting for his chance to take that net.
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The goalie thing in Calgary is a tough one.

Talbot's numbers are better, but I've always felt there is more guessing and the puck hitting him than Rittich (I'm not a goalie guy so happy to be wrong).

The team plays better in front of Talbot, which could be as simple as Rittich getting the tougher matchups, but out of the 63 goalies that have played 550 or more minutes only four have had it easier when it comes to high danger chances against per 60 minutes than Talbot.

Should be said that Rittich isn't exactly hard done by as the Flames don't give up that much, he's ranked 40th for high danger workload.

I honestly don't know what the answer is ... I think both of them are pretty average at best.
Take this for what you will, and I'm not an expert by any means, but I was a goalie all through minor hockey and I feel far more at ease when I watch Talbot than Rittich.

could be nothing or could be coming from my experience as a goalie who knows.
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"as a goalie who knows" or "as a goalie, who knows?"

Do you know something you're not telling us?
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Caveat - I still fully expect the Flames to start Rittich. That being said...If the team plays better in front of Talbot, allowing fewer high danger shots, you start him. There isn't a lot of time to adjust or correct. Go with your best shot to win out of the gate. This series isn't the time to "see what you've got" in Rittich.
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Caveat - I still fully expect the Flames to start Rittich. That being said...If the team plays better in front of Talbot, allowing fewer high danger shots, you start him. There isn't a lot of time to adjust or correct. Go with your best shot to win out of the gate. This series isn't the time to "see what you've got" in Rittich.
Of course, but there is still a fairly crucial question as to whether the better chance-prevention numbers in front of Talbot is a result of the team playing better, or if this is an indication of poorer opposing teams.

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The Flames should start Talbot, the stats are hilariously one-sided on this.

But they'll start Rittich. Because that's what they do.
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"as a goalie who knows" or "as a goalie, who knows?"

Do you know something you're not telling us?
definitely meant it as "...as a goalie, who knows" cuz I'm not even a goalie anymore
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The Flames should start Talbot, the stats are hilariously one-sided on this.

But they'll start Rittich. Because that's what they do.
Expecting this too..

HOWEVER I distinctly remember witnessing BSD playing some excellent hockey against the jets specifically so it might not blow up on them even if they stubbornly go back to him.
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The Flames should start Talbot, the stats are hilariously one-sided on this.

But they'll start Rittich. Because that's what they do.
Rittich has a great record vs. the Jets and is more likely to be a Flame long term.

What stats?
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Rittich has a great record vs. the Jets and is more likely to be a Flame long term.
What does that have to do with these playoffs?
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Old 07-27-2020, 08:45 AM   #59
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My point above though .. the stats aren't that obvious.

If Rittich faces higher competition, and with that has had more high danger shots per 60, but has been more effective in turning them away five on five.

He's .836 to Talbot's .803.

That doesn't loom well from a percentage standpoint if that's the case.

If however, it's a chicken/egg thing and the team plays better in front of Talbot because of his style and not the opposition than it's the opposite argument.

I don't see anything hilariously one sided about two middling goaltenders.
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My point above though .. the stats aren't that obvious.

If Rittich faces higher competition, and with that has had more high danger shots per 60, but has been more effective in turning them away five on five.

He's .836 to Talbot's .803.

That doesn't loom well from a percentage standpoint if that's the case.

If however, it's a chicken/egg thing and the team plays better in front of Talbot because of his style and not the opposition than it's the opposite argument.

I don't see anything hilariously one sided about two middling goaltenders.
6+ years into Treliving's tenure and he still hasn't resolved the goaltending situation. Add in the coaching calamities, and Treliving has hopefully finally learned his lessons.

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