09-11-2019, 03:06 PM
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#61
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RANDOM USER TITLE CHANGE
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
You can't pay a 7th any less and the full amount can be buried in the AHL. There's no downside here.
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I like the vitriol. Pointless move, Stone's a plug.
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09-11-2019, 03:09 PM
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#62
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Stone was a really solid defenseman in 2017-18 who simply got passed last year because of his injury. There is absolutely no downside to this signing, especially not at minimum salary.
Don't understand the vitriol I've seen about this signing here and elsewhere at all.
edit: and I also sincerely apologize to the posters who posted the rumour about this being a possibility -- it seemed preposterous at the time but I was clearly wrong about the situation. Thank you for sharing what you did.
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09-11-2019, 03:09 PM
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#63
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by genetic_phreek
Personally this move angers me. The next signings should have been Tkachuk or Mangiapane. Camp starts tomorrow as well so I would rather wait to see how guys like Davidson or maybe some other guys in the system do during camp before adding Stone.
I didn't like re-signing of Stone when we acquired Hamonic and I hate it even more today. They always talk about the game getting faster and Stone is below average in that department.
Terrible news IMO.
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At 700K his whole salary can be buried in the minors.
Very definition of a no risk move
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09-11-2019, 03:10 PM
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#64
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JBR
I sense a Brodie trade in 5, 4, 3, 2....
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Yep Brodie is replaceable with a player that no other team in the league would give 800k.
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09-11-2019, 03:11 PM
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#66
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
Yep Brodie is replaceable with a player that no other team in the league would give 800k.
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It's not that linear.
A team may choose to downgrade their defense core in order to save cap space. It doesn't mean anyone thinks Stone and Brodie are comparable.
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09-11-2019, 03:14 PM
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#67
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Franchise Player
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Nice Job Stone...
That some Senior Government manager level of double dipping right there...
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09-11-2019, 03:14 PM
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#68
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Saving the world one gif at a time
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09-11-2019, 03:15 PM
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#69
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
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Weird. I am surprised that the Flames don’t use direct deposit.
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09-11-2019, 03:15 PM
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#70
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
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Ha, so they literally have to blame themselves for the ever shrinking cap space!
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09-11-2019, 03:21 PM
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#71
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern
Ha, so they literally have to blame themselves for the ever shrinking cap space!
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At league minimum this signing doesn't directly affect cap space at all.
And given the low amount it might actually be cheaper than the alternative contract they may have kept up for dman #7
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09-11-2019, 03:21 PM
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#72
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Vancouver
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not awkward at all lol
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09-11-2019, 03:30 PM
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#73
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Voted for Kodos
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
At league minimum this signing doesn't directly affect cap space at all.
And given the low amount it might actually be cheaper than the alternative contract they may have kept up for dman #7
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Yup, it is not possible for this move to decrease our cap space.
It IS possible for this move to slightly increase our cap space.
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09-11-2019, 03:32 PM
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#74
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Franchise Player
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Darryl Sutter trades Olli Jokinen on February 1st, 2010.
Darryl Sutter signs Olli Jokinen on July 1st, 2010.
Brad Treliving buys Michael Stone out on August 1st, 2019.
Brad Treliving signs Michael Stone on September 11th, 2019.
...being a Flames fan is weird sometimes.
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09-11-2019, 03:35 PM
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#75
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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There are no real cap implications here.
The Flames were always going to have a fight in camp for the 7D spot. It was looking like it would be between Yelesin, Davidson, Valiev, and MacDonald. Each of those guys would be making minimum, except Yelesin ($925k).
Now, Stone has been added to that pile (and he'll likely win the battle). So now you have a $700k seventh defenseman. That's what was going to happen all along. The rest of the guys to the AHL and don't count against the cap.
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09-11-2019, 03:35 PM
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#76
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Franchise Player
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Flames sign Michael Stone to 1 year deal ($700k)
Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
FlamesAreOne was right. Hmmmm.
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I can’t speak for anyone else, but I owe him an apology.
I was dead wrong, and I’m thankful you were willing to share your inside knowledge even though many (including myself) grilled you for it. I’m sorry. I hope my actions don’t dissuade you from sharing what you can in the future, even though no one could blame you if you didn’t.
Edit: this goes out to EverfresH15
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09-11-2019, 03:36 PM
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#77
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Scoring Winger
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basically gets a 700k raise...
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09-11-2019, 03:38 PM
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#78
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hyperbole Chamber
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Quote:
Originally Posted by camm13
basically gets a 700k raise...
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No he's taking a $466,666 pay cut.
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09-11-2019, 03:39 PM
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#79
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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$1.8 is a slight overpay for a guy like Stone, who can play 5-7 in the lineup, who can possibly play PK and actually has a shot that can be effective. It's too bad they can't consider his effective salary if they have to bury him (I assume they can't anyway). If that was the case they could bury almost the whole amount.
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09-11-2019, 03:40 PM
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#80
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Surprised Stone couldn't get more from, say, Edmonton.
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