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Old 01-28-2020, 12:13 AM   #201
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lol! Not marred are you, CaptainCrunch?
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Old 01-28-2020, 12:29 AM   #202
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There were a few city overhead shots with flying cars all over the place. It made me wonder, I assume they just use transporters to go everywhere? Picard was all over the place, but they didn't show him transporting.
There was an episode of DS9 which mentioned the need for transporter credits for Starfleet Academy cadets; it could be that even for the technology of the 24th Century, the energy cost of transporter use was so high that it was reserved for military, government and other VIP trips.
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Old 01-28-2020, 04:56 AM   #203
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So hypothetical question. You have a holo deck, you're wife has gotten older, gained a few pounds and become a angry person not interested in sex. So you go to the old holosuite and beep boop beep program a younger hotter friskier version of your wife.


Is it still cheating?
There’s an episode of Voyager where Tuvok has the Pon Farr and he has to do it with a holographic version of his wife. They infer that it is not cheating, but only because of the circumstance. So there’s some leeway there.
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Old 01-28-2020, 08:09 AM   #204
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There’s an episode of Voyager where Tuvok has the Pon Farr and he has to do it with a holographic version of his wife. They infer that it is not cheating, but only because of the circumstance. So there’s some leeway there.
Oh yeah, and she'll totally buy that explanation when he gets back too.
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Old 01-28-2020, 09:34 AM   #205
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Wow, what happened to this thread. Came here to post about Picard, not holodeck debauchery.

Anyway, I liked it.

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Synthetics is a new term, I think. And in context, I'd say it works since the term is being used as a form of derogatory epithet in light of the events described on Mars. So using a different word conveys a different message. In this case, underscoring the fact that they aren't human, no matter how human they look.
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Old 01-28-2020, 11:01 AM   #207
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If you are at all confused about the Romulan stuff this will totally (not) clear it up for you.


https://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/star...ned-to-romulus
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I distinctly remember Harry Kim in Voyager talking about using all of his monthly transporter credits in a week after he moved away from home in the pilot episode, so it would seem everyone gets an allotment of personal transports for long distance travel and everything else is just standard shuttles
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That, like most of Star Trek Voyager....makes no damned sense.
Actually it was DS9.
in the DS9 episode "Explorers" Benjamin Sisko remarks that he used up a month's worth of credits very early on beaming home to his parents for dinner every night.

Back on point- I just cant get over how an unconscious Picard was just sent home to France instead of a hospital in San Fran.
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Old 01-28-2020, 12:56 PM   #209
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Back on point- I just cant get over how an unconscious Picard was just sent home to France instead of a hospital in San Fran.

That was very odd. Besides Dojhe being alive, I wonder if his houseguests are in on it.
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Old 01-28-2020, 01:28 PM   #210
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You mean his house slaves?
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Old 01-28-2020, 01:44 PM   #211
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There’s an episode of Voyager where Tuvok has the Pon Farr and he has to do it with a holographic version of his wife. They infer that it is not cheating, but only because of the circumstance. So there’s some leeway there.
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Meh second episode. The writing is sub-par.
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A setup heavy episode. Lots of threads coming together. Excited to see how it progresses.
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I really have enjoyed this so far, its playing like a detective story with a complex conspiracy more then anything else. We've learned a bunch of stuff.


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Meh second episode. The writing is sub-par.

This is Star Trek, not Masterpiece Theatre.
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I didn’t think it was great, a little overloaded with exposition and jamming in a lot of plot. Also contained one of my biggest pet peeves, where characters are watching footage of something that happened previously and it’s literally just footage from the show.

There’s no worse offender for that than Star Trek 4 though.



Oh yeah, good thing they had a VHS copy of the last movie to use as evidence.
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Old 01-31-2020, 12:10 AM   #217
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Honestly, I liked it.

A couple of things in particular was fleshing out why Starfleet abandoned the Romulans, it wasnt a unanimous or arbitrary decision. There was direct and serious pressure from members to do it and the result was:

Save the Romulans = Gradual Dissolution of the United Federation of Planets

Dont save the Romulans = Maintaining the UFP at the cost of selling out their core ideals and ethos.

With the caveat of: You probably couldnt have saved the Romulans anyways because the members would have withdrawn their support and resources and then it wasnt going to happen anyways.

Frankly, the Romulans really made their own beds on this one.....

So Picard isnt all squeaky-clean in this either. He had an ideal that couldnt be realistically upheld so the powers at the time made the best decision they thought they could at the time and Picard is really being a grumpy old bastard about the whole thing.

The point is that the underpinnings of Starfleet havent fundamentally shifted to being a bunch of pasty-faced racists. So they've got that going for them, which is nice.

They're not racists, they just dont particularly like the Romulans. Not because of their race mind you, but because they're largely a bunch of bastards.

How the androids fit in to all of this? Remains to be seen.

And since WHEN are there F-bombs in Star Trek? WTAF? This is like Kingdom of the Crystal Skull all over again.

In honour of Mike, Jay and Rich, I shall spoilerize my prediction.

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I like your prediction Locke but I want to change it slightly


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The only thing that bother's me about the whole federation turning their back on the Romulans is that the Romulans really helped turn the tide in the Dominion War, and tried to save Picard's butt and the Federation during the events of nemisis.



It really makes the Federation look awful that that members that owe a large part of their survival to Star Fleet, the Klingons and the Romulans.



The Federation that bragged about its high ideal's and fairness to all races, became a organization that probably should not have survived.
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Another solid episode. The detective story/conspiracy aspect is a lot of fun. Reminds me a bit of the Undiscovered Country, which is one of my all time favorite Trek films.
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One thing I'm not understanding is how many Romulans died on how many worlds, and where the #### is the borg cube actually at?
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