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Old 10-24-2020, 11:18 AM   #141
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Toronto requires an air conditioned life from June to September, horrible humidity and heat. There is no leg up. Vancouver I agree, but the November rain is horrid.
I usually love the autumn rain here, but they may change this year with Covid. No late night rainy trips to bars or shows.
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Old 10-24-2020, 04:53 PM   #142
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I've found that culture is a much more important factor for quality of life and it may be THE most important factor. However, not only is it difficult to quantify (unlike weather) and it's almost impossible to really 'know' a culture until you're in it, but it very much depends on personal preference. For instance, living in the US Bible Belt would be a nightmare for me but for a very Christian, conservative (and likely white) person it could be right up their alley.
And the most concrete aspect of culture in our day-to-day lives is civility. I was reminded of that when I walked through several neighbourhood walkways today. They had all been shoveled by the people who lived nearby, even though they're public property, and all lengthy.

People helping to push cars out of snow, picking up after their dogs, yielding to pedestrians, mowing an elderly neighbour's lawn, volunteering at a community association BBQ, letting shoppers with a handful of items go through checkout ahead of them - this is the real nuts and bolts stuff of civility and social cohesion. And I'd wager it has more of an impact on most people than political ideology.
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If you can do the work from small town Canada, you can do the work from India as well. The remote work will not be a long term trend. Post covid customer facing roles will go back to customer facing and the remote jobs will be off shored or automated.

Just wanted to note that before everyone buys a house in Nelson.
Yeah but you dont get the same service. People pay a premium on " Canadian Nice".
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Old 10-24-2020, 08:45 PM   #144
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If you can do the work from small town Canada, you can do the work from India as well. The remote work will not be a long term trend. Post covid customer facing roles will go back to customer facing and the remote jobs will be off shored or automated.

Just wanted to note that before everyone buys a house in Nelson.
I get this sentiment on a micro scale, but on a macro scale this is kind of the same erroneous thinking as the fear of automation. There are lots of corruptions and inefficiencies in our economies, but overall the purpose of a countries economy is to allocate it's resources amongst it's population. Generally speaking over a period of time the economy should backfill with jobs that will employ enough people to distribute it's wealth.

I know I've argued allot against the current iteration of conservative economics on this board, and ridiculed the idea of the invisible hand. But that is more in the context of needing strong government regulation to prevent capital from accruing and concentrating in a way that stymies opportunity.

In the concept of job creation, if you are skilled worker in a wealthy nation, you will generally have the opportunity to earn a good living, we just might have to get used to the context of those jobs shifting over time.
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Old 10-25-2020, 01:34 PM   #145
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I usually love the autumn rain here, but they may change this year with Covid. No late night rainy trips to bars or shows.
I'm worried about this for winter in Calgary this year. Going out on a snowy night and hopping from place to place to grab a drink is awesome. Walking around the neighborhood is fun and all, but it's all I've been doing since March.
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I'm worried about this for winter in Calgary this year. Going out on a snowy night and hopping from place to place to grab a drink is awesome. Walking around the neighborhood is fun and all, but it's all I've been doing since March.
Yeah, this is going to be a boring ass winter, I hear you.
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Yeah, this is going to be a boring ass winter, I hear you.
I been out of work since March as well. Lets get drinks :P Everyday.
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Yeah, this is going to be a boring ass winter, I hear you.
I thought last winter was going to be the Long Winter of Our Discontent but at least every day was a bit of a rollercoaster ride as we waded through a pandemic and everything it brought with it.

This winter is going to suuuuuuck.
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I've vistited every major Canadian city and lived in Calgary & Vancouver. I've also visited 30+ States, and I lived in Southern California for a while.

Hands down, flat out, the best place on Earth to live is SoCal. You're not crowded like the Eastern cities are, there's tons to do, you got beaches, you got San Diego, you got everything. Then there is the weather. It's literally the best. It's not too hot like Vegas or Phoenix, and it's as consistent as you could want. I remember texting my parents in Calgary from my pool on Dec 25th. Yeah, people bitch about the traffic there, but it's honestly worse in Vancouver with their one highway.

My family and friends are in Calgary. And as fantastic as SoCal was, I can't imagine having my kids in a city where I didn't have either my parents or my wife's parents. So for me, I can make any city work as long as I have my social connections.
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People who think they'll be able to live in a small town and work remotely are setting themselves up for disappointment. Companies will be more tolerant of people working from home going forward, but most are still going to expect workers to be in the main office, working-face-to-face with colleagues, 1-2 days a week. I just had a recruiter tell me she's had to turn away people who reside out of city from applying for positions for that very reason.
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I don’t know about SoCal, there are other problems there. We know of many families that went there and ran into issues with kids. Not climate related.

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Yah I don't think SoCal would be high on my list to live. Maybe if I had millions, but otherwise not a chance.
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^^ I don't have millions, and you sacrifice some space of course, but there are plenty of nice neighborhoods in LA county, Orange County, San Bernardino, etc where you can get decent semi-detached homes for 300-500K. In fact, I didn't even desire to live in LA proper with the obvious problems that come with a megalopolis like that.
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^^ I don't have millions, and you sacrifice some space of course, but there are plenty of nice neighborhoods in LA county, Orange County, San Bernardino, etc where you can get decent semi-detached homes for 300-500K. In fact, I didn't even desire to live in LA proper with the obvious problems that come with a megalopolis like that.
Ah yes....but lets not forget the Property Taxes!
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SoCal is awesome, but the taxes and the non-stop regulation of every little thing in your life is probably pretty frustrating.
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^^ I don't have millions, and you sacrifice some space of course, but there are plenty of nice neighborhoods in LA county, Orange County, San Bernardino, etc where you can get decent semi-detached homes for 300-500K. In fact, I didn't even desire to live in LA proper with the obvious problems that come with a megalopolis like that.
Yea, but if you move you would want to live near AV, Newport Beach, Dayna Point, or north like SB, Santa Monica and places like that. It gets hot as you move inland.

That being said I am in an age where Palm Springs would be appealing. On a positive note I have had friends really rave about is how reasonable the fees are for state colleges if you are a California resident. One my friends put three kids through UCLA at a very reasonable rate.

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Yea, but if you move you would want to live near AV, Newport Beach, Dayna Point, or north like SB, Santa Monica and places like that. It gets hot as you move inland.

That being said I am in an age where Palm Springs would be appealing. On a positive note I have had friends really rave about is how reasonable the fees are for state colleges if you are a California resident. One my friends put three kids through UCLA at a very reasonable rate.
I'm not an expert on costs for American university's but I always thought in-state schools were always decently priced. A cousin in Texas was taking the same program as me at Texas and I recall the costs being similar.
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This thread is depressing me as I'm building a house in Sherwood Park after living 20 minutes south of Nelson for 12 years (Calgary for 18 before that).

I love the Kootenays and all it has to offer but there is nowhere near the opportunity that there is in Calgary or Edmonton. Vancouver would be an alternative but I have no desire to live on the coast and after 12 years I can definitively say, on average, I prefer your average Albertan to your average British Columbian
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I left Calgary in 1999 for Southern California and absolutely love it here. Yeah, it is expensive and traffic can be a bitch, but if i want to surf I put on my wetsuit and I am in the water in 5 minutes. Even with the current political/social issues in this country, my wife and I discussed moving for about 5 minutes until we realized there is no where else we would rather live. Now we don't have kids, so I can understand why those with families would not want to live here
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Yah I don't think SoCal would be high on my list to live. Maybe if I had millions, but otherwise not a chance.
I lived in SoCal for a couple of years. Yes you get less house for your money but you live outside 12 months of the year. Our back patio doors were always open and were outside all the time. It was a pretty good lifestyle.

But I hear you, living in California doesn't come without it's issues too.
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