FanIn80 - I just don't understand why you are putting so much effort into attacking flash. Every post you are making lately is about why flash is bad, is holding the future of technology back, including links to newstories that support your anti-flash agenda, etc. You are actually just trolling as bad I was .
It's like if some people had a huge record collection in vinyl and are audiophiles and loved that but then you keep posting about how records warp and get scratched and dirty and news stories about how the record industry was dying and why they suck so much and how everybody should just move onto CDs and extolling all the virtues of CDs and detractors of vinyl when vinyl has inherently good value and content in it that cannot and will not be reproduced or replaced.
Some people (me especially) just really love all the flash content that has been made of the past 10 years when it was a dominant format for user based content like apps, games, animation, interactive fiction, etc. and also streaming web video and I don't want to lose the ability to experience that. That's all.
I understand your point but if Apple had never dropped their support for flash, you would never be defending that choice so ferventely in the first place. I agree that HTML5 and other open standards are the future and I welcome them to come in and replace flash but nothing can replace the content that has already been made. I hope that HTML5 provides fertile ground for future creativity and productivity in user made content and software for the internet.
I agree that we should just end the flash discussion. Apple doesn't want it. It's slow for them, it's proprietary, it's the past. That's that. I'm still going to enjoy Super Mario Crossover though, and The Mystery of Time and Space, etc. as well as my collection of videos in flash format culled over the last 5 years from Youtube and the like.
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It's like if some people had a huge record collection in vinyl and are audiophiles and loved that but then you keep posting about how records warp and get scratched and dirty and news stories about how the record industry was dying and why they suck so much and how everybody should just move onto CDs and extolling all the virtues of CDs and detractors of vinyl when vinyl has inherently good value and content in it that cannot and will not be reproduced or replaced.
I have no idea why companies stopped supporting Betamax. It was obviously a superior product, so Sony, Toshiba, et al were evil a-holes, depriving me of my better looking movies. When our last Beta VCR died, I tried to find something to play my collection of Beta tapes, but everyone had moved on like a bunch of idiots.
Also, I have 50 Atari cartridges out in the garage. I think Sony and Nintendo are evil corporations for not including an Atari slot on the PS3 and Wii. You can tell me that they are old games with horrible graphics, but I love them. I don't think we should have abandoned them and I think there is something horribly, horribly wrong with any company that doesn't support the Atari cartridge in their gaming system.
The other day, I got into my car and it started up with the turn of a key. Man, I hate that. Call me old-fashioned, but there was just something pure about the good, honest, hard work that went into manually cranking the engine up with the old hand cranks.
I wrote Ford a letter (email, shmemail) last week to let them know that I am not impressed with their decision to move on from hand-cranked engines. It's a complete outrage.
Also, while we're at it... I was at my sister's house yesterday and we were in the middle of conversing about my love of hand-cranked engines, and just before I got to the good part (you know, the part where I really get "wound up"), we were interrupted by this God-awful ringing noise. Apparently, it was this "telephone" device. I'm telling you, I don't know who came up with that nonsense, but doesn't anyone just use tin cans and a string anymore? That was solid technology. If the string broke, you just cut off another. Tin can got dented? Eat some soup, and then you have a new one. They just don't make things like that anymore...
The other day, I got into my car and it started up with the turn of a key. Man, I hate that. Call me old-fashioned, but there was just something pure about the good, honest, hard work that went into manually cranking the engine up with the old hand cranks.
I hate to be the one to tell you, but they have cars that start with the push of a button now. Keys are old technology, man. Get with it!
I have no idea why companies stopped supporting Betamax. It was obviously a superior product, so Sony, Toshiba, et al were evil a-holes, depriving me of my better looking movies. When our last Beta VCR died, I tried to find something to play my collection of Beta tapes, but everyone had moved on like a bunch of idiots.
Also, I have 50 Atari cartridges out in the garage. I think Sony and Nintendo are evil corporations for not including an Atari slot on the PS3 and Wii. You can tell me that they are old games with horrible graphics, but I love them. I don't think we should have abandoned them and I think there is something horribly, horribly wrong with any company that doesn't support the Atari cartridge in their gaming system.
Beta can be viewed with a coax USB TV tuner. I have a VCR plugged into mine. I have a USB turntable for vinyl. You CAN play Atari on the PS3 and Wii. The only reason I remotely like the PS3/XB360/Wii is because I can play old games on them. I play PS3 with a Sega Saturn USB gamepad. New games and new things suck! I'm old! (actually, I'm probably younger than Fanin80).
Maybe I don't hate Apple. I just hate new things.
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And I've watched this video many times. One of my hobbies is finding videos of 1980s computer shows.
What is this "coax USB TV tuner" you speak of? Seriously, I was only being half-facetious; we actually do have 2 or 3 tapes of family events (ie my brother's first hockey game) on beta tapes. We kept the tapes around in hopes that we would come across a Beta VCR someday.
What is this "coax USB TV tuner" you speak of? Seriously, I was only being half-facetious; we actually do have 2 or 3 tapes of family events (ie my brother's first hockey game) on beta tapes. We kept the tapes around in hopes that we would come across a Beta VCR someday.
I'm afraid you would still need a Beta machine to play the tapes though they can be found on ebay or specialist websites. There are still some people online that specialize in fixing up Beta machines (along with anything you can think of with old electronics like 1950s TV collectors, record player collectors, etc.).
The TV tuner is just what you would used to digitize the video signal coming from the Beta machine to save it for posterity.]
Well, that's kinda silly. I could take your flash movies that you've taken from Youtube and put them in MPEG format. I thought the point was to keep them in the format that they are and still play them?
We did transfer most of our tapes to VHS and then to DVD... we just missed these two. But for the most part, we kept pace with technology rather than hold onto the past.
Well, that's kinda silly. I could take your flash movies that you've taken from Youtube and put them in MPEG format. I thought the point was to keep them in the format that they are and still play them?
We did transfer most of our tapes to VHS and then to DVD... we just missed these two. But for the most part, we kept pace with technology rather than hold onto the past.
I'm not sure what you were expecting. To be able to play a vinyl record I still need a turntable with a needle. It's just that modern ones can be hooked up to a computer via USB so you listen straight to them or save music into a high birate lossless format.
Yes Flash video can be easily converted, but not flash applications or flash based animation unless you have access to the original art and vector based images. It's not about keeping the format they are in, but being able to enjoy things that are only available in one format and cannot be converted for the future. There's no reason for me to hang onto crappy videos from 10 years ago unless they are in a format that can't properly be converted. I have some realmedia files that reject every attempt to be converted by any software I throw it into so I guess they have to stay that way.
There are nuances though with different formats that some people value in preserving, such as audiophiles and vinyl records which actually carry more of the sound than many CD recordings. Natural sound is by definition analog and not digital. A digital recording doesn't include all the sound information unless the bitrate is so amazing high that it doesn't matter anymore. Most CDs are only 44100Hz 16 bit though.
My point has always been that technology has progressed to the point where software can support almost anything and it is always possible to preserve content for viewing. It has nothing to do with physical hardware or keeping pace with technology. There will always be new things and old things but modern technology means we can enjoy all of it. There should be no limitations.
I'm not sure what the circumstances are around you getting the SSD from Apple... but you may want to consider the 160GB one from Intel. Bigger size and a better drive... and pretty comparable in price, I'd imagine.
Also, if you're going to go with the SSD, I'd go with an i7 over an i5.
Edit: Whoops. I take that back. The price isn't comparable at all. $210 to upgrade to a 128GB SSD is a pretty good deal indeed. The only thing I don't know about is TRIM support in Snow Leopard. I don't think they've added it yet, but I'm also not sure if it's needed with OS X. Some more knowledgeable users here may be able to help with that one.
I'm not sure what the circumstances are around you getting the SSD from Apple... but you may want to consider the 160GB one from Intel. Bigger size and a better drive... and pretty comparable in price, I'd imagine.
Also, if you're going to go with the SSD, I'd go with an i7 over an i5.
Edit: Whoops. I take that back. The price isn't comparable at all. $210 to upgrade to a 128GB SSD is a pretty good deal indeed. The only thing I don't know about is TRIM support in Snow Leopard. I don't think they've added it yet, but I'm also not sure if it's needed with OS X. Some more knowledgeable users here may be able to help with that one.
yea its an extra 198 or so student upgrade...and if buying it seperately id be paying 400ish but maintaining the 500gb, which i dont need...
Yes Flash video can be easily converted, but not flash applications or flash based animation unless you have access to the original art and vector based images. It's not about keeping the format they are in, but being able to enjoy things that are only available in one format and cannot be converted for the future. There's no reason for me to hang onto crappy videos from 10 years ago unless they are in a format that can't properly be converted. I have some realmedia files that reject every attempt to be converted by any software I throw it into so I guess they have to stay that way.
Ironically, Apple’s refusal to support intermediate runtimes means that those old Flash apps can’t be cross-compiled for the iPhone and run as native iPhone OS apps (a feature of the newest Flash environment in CS5), which would have been one way of bringing that content forward with you.
Well, in fairness... If someone can get Quake 2 working in HTML5, I'm fairly confident that "Super Mario Crossover" isn't going to turn out to be some new form of rocket surgery.
The "old videos" argument I can empathize with, but it's not like we'll never find another way of creating online entertainment again. I'm sure there will be fade-in, menu-driven websites with bolt-of-lightning mouseover effects in the post-Flash world too.
New app to sync with iTunes via wifi, unfortunately it was rejected in the app store so it's only available via jailbreaking. Hopefully it was just rejected because it duplicates a feature they'll have in OS4; seems like a great idea.
New app to sync with iTunes via wifi, unfortunately it was rejected in the app store so it's only available via jailbreaking. Hopefully it was just rejected because it duplicates a feature they'll have in OS4; seems like a great idea.
While I love this idea, it still seems useless if you have to click "accept" on both devices. Wouldn't the point be to sync away from your computer? I want to set up my computer to download a certain show, wake up, turn on the ipad on my bed-side table, hit sync, get ready for work and walk out of the house with the show all loaded up and ready to go. It sounds silly, but with my computer in my basement for some reason I don't go down there a whole lot. I tend to do my syncing about once a week.
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