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Old 05-29-2018, 11:36 AM   #21
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. Have you never seen a guy in a penalty box making a visor gesture at the other guy? I also know if those players were mandated to wear them, that would be seen as "not on them".

I also didn't wear a visor, until the day I got a stick in the eye
Only after fights, understandably so.

Unless you wear a Heatly visor, getting a stick in the eye can easily happen with or without a visor.
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Old 05-29-2018, 12:42 PM   #22
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Only after fights, understandably so.

Unless you wear a Heatly visor, getting a stick in the eye can easily happen with or without a visor.
No, not as easily. It can happen, but only in certain ways, not in every way.
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Old 05-29-2018, 01:00 PM   #23
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No, not as easily. It can happen, but only in certain ways, not in every way.
It definitely helps, but the majority of the time the stick or puck are travelling upwards, so (as a taller person) I don’t believe they are as effective as commonly thought.
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Old 05-29-2018, 01:03 PM   #24
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If you want to play rec hockey without a visor that's your business, sort of. As soon as you lose an eye out health system has to support you, and the league you are playing in faces liability.
Your healthcare system... like I don’t contribute to it the same as everyone else. And would have to for the foreseeable future (intended).

Who in their right mind allows people to play hockey without a waiver?
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Old 05-31-2018, 08:19 AM   #25
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Your healthcare system... like I don’t contribute to it the same as everyone else.
out = our. It was a typo in my post.
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Old 06-02-2018, 05:44 AM   #26
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Biggest thing I agree with:

NHL needs to change its image. Focus on displaying skill instead of 'grit'. It boggles my mind when fans boisterously cheer scrums with guys pushing and shoving each other. They've been conditioned to associate that with hockey and entertainment, when it should be about goal scoring, skating, and tactics. It starts with the league marketing team wanting to change.

Look at the NFL. There was a time when crowds would roar for a violent head-on-head hit. Times have changed. NHL needs to get with the times.
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so is Carcillo going to give a count on how many concussions he caused??
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so is Carcillo going to give a count on how many concussions he caused??
This was brought up as a constant criticism of his position, but that was addressed by him in the OP. Check the Q and A session. Basically he says that he was taught from a very young age to play that way without any knowledge of concussions.
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Old 06-03-2018, 05:31 AM   #29
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Biggest thing I agree with:

NHL needs to change its image. Focus on displaying skill instead of 'grit'. It boggles my mind when fans boisterously cheer scrums with guys pushing and shoving each other. They've been conditioned to associate that with hockey and entertainment, when it should be about goal scoring, skating, and tactics. It starts with the league marketing team wanting to change.

Look at the NFL. There was a time when crowds would roar for a violent head-on-head hit. Times have changed. NHL needs to get with the times.
I have watched football for 35 years and can't remember ever a cheer for a violent head on head hit, yeah there's ooh and aah's but generally the crowds are concerned.

Contact sports like football and hockey would have never became popular without a little violence mixed in but most fans don't want injurys
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Biggest thing I agree with:

NHL needs to change its image. Focus on displaying skill instead of 'grit'. It boggles my mind when fans boisterously cheer scrums with guys pushing and shoving each other. They've been conditioned to associate that with hockey and entertainment, when it should be about goal scoring, skating, and tactics. It starts with the league marketing team wanting to change.

Look at the NFL. There was a time when crowds would roar for a violent head-on-head hit. Times have changed. NHL needs to get with the times.
I played Football and Hockey at a high level. Football is no where close to Hockey in physicality.

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This was brought up as a constant criticism of his position, but that was addressed by him in the OP. Check the Q and A session. Basically he says that he was taught from a very young age to play that way without any knowledge of concussions.
except that he became an adult and continued to play a game that caused concussions and didnt change his way of playing or take responsibilty of how he played.
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except that he became an adult and continued to play a game that caused concussions and didnt change his way of playing or take responsibilty of how he played.
His experiences tell me that he honestly wasn't aware of the risks of playing that way and that his style of play was encouraged by NHL teams over the years. He calls it a cultural problem, and I have to agree. Even if he didn't take responsibility then, he's taking responsibility now. He's working harder than most to get the word out, help guys stay protected, and become self-advocates. He doesn't even want his own son playing hockey because he's afraid of head injuries. I really don't know what you expect him to do. Now that he knows about these problems he's on the right side of the issue. That's all you can really ask of anyone.
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