2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors

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Originally Posted by bubbsy

Friedman made a good point this morning. The Sens pick this year is sure to be top 5 so makes sense to defer. Though if the Sens are serious in going scorched earth rebuild, then next year's pick could be even higher.

Ugly, ugly position for them to be in.

Sens are a prime example of not bottoming out to build a roster leaving them with a highly mediocre team. In the last 15 years or so, the highest they have ever picked is 6th and that was once (zinjenebad or whatever).

A highly mediocre team doesn’t get one win away from the cup finals. They did better against the Pens than any other team. They became mediocre with bad moves since then.

They also have a solid prospect pool (Chabot, White, and Brown are all top tier prospects).

Their mistake was penny pinching this off season and losing solid players in Turris and Methot. They also gave up way to much for Duchene who has always played better as a winger than at center.

So they may be mediocre as of right now but it has nothing to do with them not bottoming out. They have drafted very well in the mid first round and had a good team VERY recently.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Friedman made a good point this morning. The Sens pick this year is sure to be top 5 so makes sense to defer. Though if the Sens are serious in going scorched earth rebuild, then next year's pick could be even higher.

Ugly, ugly position for them to be in.

Sens are a prime example of not bottoming out to build a roster leaving them with a highly mediocre team. In the last 15 years or so, the highest they have ever picked is 6th and that was once (zinjenebad or whatever).

They were pretty good last year.

Their problem isn't that they never tanked (it amazes me that fans think this is necessary), it is that the owner gets in the way and they make bad roster decisions.

[bubbsy]

Don't disagree that the methot, turris moves hurt them. Maybe it's just my bias, but even last year, they seemed like a bubble team that went on a Cinderella run. Not a perennial playoff team, let alone contender, in my opinion.

[RoughRiderRowdy]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Don't disagree that the methot, turris moves hurt them. Maybe it's just my bias, but even last year, they seemed like a bubble team that went on a Cinderella run. Not a perennial playoff team, let alone contender, in my opinion.

Agreed. Absolutely horrible roster on paper. Almost worse than arizona if you take away karlsson. Anderson playing lights out and bouchers system was what made them good. Lol tom pyatt for heavens sakes

[sureLoss]

John Shannon @JSportsnet
In Calgary, just get a sense that management may be feeling a shake-up is necessary... not getting the results and not scoring ... time to make some "adjustments".

Dean Molberg @fan960boomer
Echoing @JSportsnet I'm told the Flames are looking to make some adjustments. To start, minor deal today and expect a member or two from the Heat to join the big club very soon.

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

John Shannon @JSportsnet
In Calgary, just get a sense that management may be feeling a shake-up is necessary... not getting the results and not scoring ... time to make some "adjustments".

Flames about to make January 31, 2010 happen all over again aren't they

[the_only_turek_fan]

@fan960boomer: Echoing @JSportsnet I'm told the Flames are looking to make some adjustments. To start, minor deal today and expect a member or two from the H...

[JurassicTunga12]

Mangiapane? Andersson? Klimchuk?

[sureLoss]

Dean Molberg @fan960boomer
Level of play and goals against has been good for a few weeks but too many points slipping through their fingers. A scoring winger has to be their main target.

[mile]

Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12

Mangiapane? Andersson? Klimchuk?

Or Hrivik.

Or Huska

[sureLoss]

HNIC:

Asking price for Pacioretty: Bergevin asking for a top goal scorer back preferably one younger than Pacioretty
Habs are actively shopping Pacioretty
One of the reason Habs are asking for so much is they now if Pacioretty gets a fresh start he is going to start producing again


Blues interested in Hoffman.
Blues 1st round pick is tied up in the Schenn trade and how they do this year, but they have some high end forward prospects like Kyrou, Thomas, Kostin and Fabbri that could be inticing.
If Bouwmeester stays healthy Blues are going to do something whether it is Hoffman or someone else.


Leafs will be the first NHL team that will stay off the strip when they visit Las Vegas.
They are staying about 25 minutes away from the arena.

[Machiavelli]

Bergevin ruined his team. Good luck getting that ask for Patches

[midniteowl]

A top young goal scorer for Pacioretty? If a team have one of those, why would they want Pacioretty?

[IgiTang]

Pacioretty is f’n junk and a terrible leader imo. Lazy and quits on plays imo.

[IgiTang]

Edit Dbl Post.

Edit #2:With all the chatter about the Sabres here on CP, I have come around to the idea of perhaps moving Dougie if the BT is unwilling to move Brodie.

A couple Trade scenarios I could see being beneficial to the Flames and Sabres is-

Hamilton and Brouwer for Kane, Bagosian, and Reinhart (due to Kane being a potential UFA, no salary retained on Brouwer and perhaps a conditional 2nd rounder from Buffalo)

Or Brodie for Kane and Bagosian and a conditional 2nd depending on Kane Re-signing with the Flames.

I think Bagosian still has some game left and is a competitor with grit and could fit nicely as a 3rd RD with Kulak perhaps.
I think Stone could handle 2nd pairing minutes and Hamonic and Gio would be a nice shutdown pair against other teams top lines.

Or go even bigger! Brodie and Hamilton Backlund for RoR, Kane, Bagosian, Reinhart and Risiolainen? Lol. I wish.

JG- Monny- Kane
Tkachuk-ROR- Frolik/Ferland
Ferland/Bennett- Janko- Ferland/Jagr/Hathaway
Mangiapane- Reinhart - Jagr/Hathaway
Xtra - Brouwer

Gio- Ristolainen
Kulak-Stone
Andersson/Kylington- Bagosian
X-Andersson/Kylington/Bagosian

Lol, one can dream right?

Oh and Coach- Anyone but Cameron and GG given a chance to bring his own guy in it fire them all. Don’t replace from with in unless it’s the eliminator!

[Brick]

Six potential trade destinations for the Canadiens’ Max Pacioretty:

"Calgary has a wonderful top line anchored by Sean Monahan and Johnny Gaudreau, but secondary scoring is lacking. Pacioretty might pair well with two-way centre Mikael Backlund and would certainly love not seeing the other team’s top defenders every night. The power play — currently ranked 20th in the league — could also use a boost and the vision of ‘Johhny Hockey’ sliding sweet passes to triggerman Pacioretty should stimulate saliva glands all over Southern Alberta.

As for what could go the other way, the captain of Canada’s World Junior Championship entry, Dillon Dube, was a Flames second-rounder in 2016. And, with Sam Bennett coming to life in the past six weeks, maybe the Habs have interest in the 2014 fourth overall selection."

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/s...ax-pacioretty/

Don't shoot the messenger.

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by Brick

Six potential trade destinations for the Canadiens’ Max Pacioretty:

"Calgary has a wonderful top line anchored by Sean Monahan and Johnny Gaudreau, but secondary scoring is lacking. Pacioretty might pair well with two-way centre Mikael Backlund and would certainly love not seeing the other team’s top defenders every night. The power play — currently ranked 20th in the league — could also use a boost and the vision of ‘Johhny Hockey’ sliding sweet passes to triggerman Pacioretty should stimulate saliva glands all over Southern Alberta.

As for what could go the other way, the captain of Canada’s World Junior Championship entry, Dillon Dube, was a Flames second-rounder in 2016. And, with Sam Bennett coming to life in the past six weeks, maybe the Habs have interest in the 2014 fourth overall selection."

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/s...ax-pacioretty/

Don't shoot the messenger.

Puuuuuuuuuke!!!!! If BT traded Sam bennett after all the crap the kid has gone through with trying to find his place and finally does , I would be pissed!

Dube is perhaps a trade chip but no effin way should Bennett be going anywhere. Sam and Matty are core pieces for the future IMO.

[bubbsy]

Ya, no thanks. Especially at those potential returns.

[Monahan For Mayor]

I would really like to bring Patches in. 30+ goals in 6 straight seasons (including lockout pace) he would definitely bring much needed scoring. He mite not be the best defensively but we have the players to match with him that would make strong lines.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Tkachuk - Backlund - Patches
Bennett - Janko - Frolik
Eat Bread - Stajan - Jagr/Brouwer

That makes our RW wayyyy deeper.

[bubbsy]

The flames core is, in my opinion :
Monahan
Gaudreau
Tkachuk
Bennett
Jankowski (no point trading given he's just starting his career)
Giordano
One of Hamilton/Brodie

Those are non starters for me as far potential trade assets.

On the prospect front, I would prefer the following being untouchable:
Parsons
Dube
2 of 3 of Andersson, fox, Valimaki