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View Poll Results: What do you think of the trade after a week of getting your head around it?
Love it, think Lucic is an upgrade 109 16.80%
Like it, clears some cap space even if Lucic is no better 197 30.35%
Indifferent, both teams getting a failed project 187 28.81%
Dislike it, Neal needed another year to bounce back 107 16.49%
Hate it, Neal will be better in Edmonton 49 7.55%
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Old 07-19-2019, 05:40 PM   #861
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Here's to hoping we look back at this thread in the same way we do the Lindholm and Hanifin trade thread.
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Old 07-19-2019, 05:40 PM   #862
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the conditional 3rd and the 12.5% make it a little better. Now it only feels like a hard slap in the face, not like a kick in the nuts. Progress.
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Well the conditional 3rd is better than nothing providing it's attainable but I think the Flames should have received more back for helping the Oilers get rid of that contract.
but the oilers also helped the flames get rid of neal's contract... marginal gains in this trade but it does suck that lucic's contract is worse
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Old 07-19-2019, 05:41 PM   #864
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Yes, I did. But I still don't get why anyone would pull up stats from 3 years ago to prove a point, sorry.
Because the words "declining" were used which is typically used to describe trends. Or do you never look past 1 year?
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Old 07-19-2019, 05:41 PM   #865
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Just stopping on road trip so maybe it’s been answered for sure but If he didn’t waive his NMC and has to be protected in the expansion draft than this trade is garbage
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Old 07-19-2019, 05:41 PM   #866
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But why?



He beats people up and his lack of fights is because people are scared of him, not because he isn't willing.



Tkachuk and Bennett were just given a "hall pass". I'd love to see Bennett centre Tkachuk and Lucic.



Plus I am forever in debt with gratitude to any member of the 2011 Bruins. I have no problem with Lucic or Marchand. Players you love to hate.



If Lucic puts up 30 points and is a physical presence and adds an inch or two to every player on this roster, he still brings more value than Neal putting up 20 goals and 45 points.


Lucic brought zero value to Edmonton as a physical presence.

He’s not been the player you just described.

I doubt he physically can be.

I don’t question his desire.


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Old 07-19-2019, 05:42 PM   #867
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For once I don't feel like heading over to HF Oilers and reading about their thoughts about a trade.
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Old 07-19-2019, 05:42 PM   #868
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If the condition is that the Oilers make the playoffs, then it means nothing.

If it is based on Neal's production, then they will probably make him sit if he gets close to meeting it. That's how they role.
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Old 07-19-2019, 05:42 PM   #869
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Rick no like.

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Not a good deal IMO. Time will tell, but I think this will be a loss for Treliving.
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Lucic brought zero value to Edmonton as a physical presence.

He’s not been the player you just described.

I doubt he physically can be.

I don’t question his desire.


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I was at HF and no fans are bringing this up as something he brought to the table or something they will miss. Most of them are giddy right now and went from wanting Holland fired (there is an actual thread there) to extending him ha ha ha. It has to be a pretty happy day for them and I give Holland credit as I never thought he could unload that deal.
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Because the words "declining" were used which is typically used to describe trends. Or do you never look past 1 year?
all good. I just don't see why you would use 3 years because Lucics first Oilers season obviously skews the numbers in his favour. I'm not defending Eriksson, his contract is also bad ... but his output has been relatively stable while Lucic has completely fallen off a cliff. Pick your poison, I guess.
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For once I don't feel like heading over to HF Oilers and reading about their thoughts about a trade.


Yeah, I think I’ll pass on that too.

I’ll just spend my time on the rack tonight, less painful.


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with looch posting his jersey on twitter..doubt he's getting flipped.
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Because the words "declining" were used which is typically used to describe trends. Or do you never look past 1 year?
All we know for sure is that Lucic is declining. That isn't up for debate.

It's still questionable whether Neal is declining or last season was just an aberration.
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Old 07-19-2019, 05:46 PM   #877
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I think it’s fair to ask now:

Is James Neal the worst Flame of all time?

Is he the worst free agent signing ever?

29 million dollar signing and he got 19 points, and was healthy scratched in the playoffs because his lack of backchecking in overtime lost us the game... traded after one year for a contract unanimously considered to be amongst the worst in the league

I think the answer to both questions is yes
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with looch posting his jersey on twitter..doubt he's getting flipped.
Yup, all hope is now lost.

Treliving better hope like hell this team does something in the playoffs because if they falter even a little bit his ass is squarely on the hot seat.

Just unfathomable that he would wilfully acquire the ugliest contract in the entire league.
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with looch posting his jersey on twitter..doubt he's getting flipped.
Little chance he's getting flipped as the Canucks are probably the only team interested and as I said before Ericksson while a better player than Lucic doesn't bring anything to the table that the Flames already don't have and Lucic at least can be an enforcer.
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I was at HF and no fans are bringing this up as something he brought to the table or something they will miss. Most of them are giddy right now and went from wanting Holland fired (there is an actual thread there) to extending him ha ha ha. It has to be a pretty happy day for them and I give Holland credit as I never thought he could unload that deal.
Yea, but those are Oiler fans. Are you really taking advice and opinion from Oiler fans?
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