01-21-2021, 09:24 AM
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#161
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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I don't like the idea that people make their HOF judgements based on the worst guy to get in. If you do, it's just a race to the bottom. You'll always find someone who can compare to the worst guy currently in the HOF.
Before Eli, I'm sure there was some other guy that Eli fans pointed to as evidence that he deserved to get in.
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01-21-2021, 09:27 AM
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#162
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Franchise Player
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Seems ridiculous to me to base whether someone gets into the HOF or not based on Super Bowls in the sport that requires the most personnel to win (both on and off the field). Brady wins zero superbowls if he gets drafted by Cleveland.
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01-21-2021, 09:48 AM
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#163
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
Before Eli, I'm sure there was some other guy that Eli fans pointed to as evidence that he deserved to get in.
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Terry Bradshaw I imagine. And I fully agree Super Bowls shouldn't be everything, which is why they aren't. It's not like John Elway wasn't a HOFer in January 1997 and the suddenly became one in January 1998. But Super Bowls are part of the equation, and probably disproportionally so (see.....Terry Bradshaw).
Also....Eli fans? There's such a thing as fans specifically of Eli Manning? Do they enjoy terrible interceptions and puzzled looks that much?
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01-21-2021, 10:11 AM
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#164
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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01-21-2021, 10:23 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Terry Bradshaw I imagine. And I fully agree Super Bowls shouldn't be everything, which is why they aren't. It's not like John Elway wasn't a HOFer in January 1997 and the suddenly became one in January 1998. But Super Bowls are part of the equation, and probably disproportionally so (see.....Terry Bradshaw).
Also....Eli fans? There's such a thing as fans specifically of Eli Manning? Do they enjoy terrible interceptions and puzzled looks that much?
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I mean, if you hate the Pats you kinda became an Eli fan (and Foles to a lesser extent) by default.
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01-21-2021, 10:33 AM
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#166
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by corporatejay
Seems ridiculous to me to base whether someone gets into the HOF or not based on Super Bowls in the sport that requires the most personnel to win (both on and off the field). Brady wins zero superbowls if he gets drafted by Cleveland.
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its interesting to think about a guy like Drew Brees, first ballot hall of famer with or without a super bowl. If Brett "turnover" Favre doesnt make a stupid cross the body throw in the NFC championship game, then Drew Brees has no Super bowl wins and is likley looked at like Marino. Just shows it is a team win and sometime a bit of luck.
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01-21-2021, 10:35 AM
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#167
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Terry Bradshaw I imagine. And I fully agree Super Bowls shouldn't be everything, which is why they aren't. It's not like John Elway wasn't a HOFer in January 1997 and the suddenly became one in January 1998. But Super Bowls are part of the equation, and probably disproportionally so (see.....Terry Bradshaw).
Also....Eli fans? There's such a thing as fans specifically of Eli Manning? Do they enjoy terrible interceptions and puzzled looks that much?
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Giants fans are weirdly defensive about Eli.
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01-21-2021, 12:01 PM
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#168
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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01-21-2021, 12:16 PM
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#169
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Steelers are signing Haskins. I like it, there's no risk having him as a 2/3 to see if there's something to work with.
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01-21-2021, 12:19 PM
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#170
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Franchise Player
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Uh, who is the Steelers' #1? Because if it's Ben again you're gonna have a bad time.
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01-21-2021, 12:21 PM
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#171
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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he will unless he retires, let's not kid ourselves. I'm not a fan of it either, but if your alternative is Mason Rudolph, then you might as well stick with Ben for one more year and go scorched Earth after that.
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01-21-2021, 12:21 PM
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#172
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by transplant99
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I'll take it. Happy it's not McDaniels.
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01-21-2021, 03:17 PM
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#174
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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The media is having fun with his presser. Sounds like a bit of a meathead but I suppose it could translate to being a good motivator. Time will tell.
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01-21-2021, 03:22 PM
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#175
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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I hate when people get judged for how they talk on live camera...its hard for many to do so. Sure he has been around it a while but this is an entire different level of pressure.
I watched it live and yeah it was a bit weird but he came across as a guy really anxious and not overly comfortable but just trying to be genuine. It didnt work that well but it hardly is a reflection on his intelligence.
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01-21-2021, 03:42 PM
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#176
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Winebar Kensington
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Kevin Stefanski named NFL Coach of the Year by Sporting News and PFWA
Cleveland’s 1st-year head coach led the team to its best results in a generation
https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news...u0YNVF6wvyt_JQ
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Stefanski is the first Browns head coach to earn the PFWA's honor since Marty Schottenheimer won AFC Coach of the Year in 1986. For Sporting News, it's the first time since Paul Brown won it in 1953.
Sporting News' award was voted on by the league's coaches. PFWA's was by its organization's members.
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01-21-2021, 03:52 PM
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#177
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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I’m just curious where he got the idea to bite off people’s knee caps after getting knocked down. Big fan of mutant league football maybe?
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01-21-2021, 07:35 PM
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#178
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
I’m just curious where he got the idea to bite off people’s knee caps after getting knocked down. Big fan of mutant league football maybe?
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Bone Jackson tho.
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01-22-2021, 02:30 PM
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#180
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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are they taking the piss? Your young franchise QB wants out and you're thinking about Josh McCown as your HC?! Crazy stuff.
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