2 Calgary brothers charged with sex attack on teen

[GGG]

As much as people don't like the insanity defense it seems to protect society better than people with mental issues in the criminal system. These people might never get out if they had gone with an insanity plee.

People who can't conform to society as a result of things they do not control need to be removed from society to protect it.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

46!! my dog is smarter

Probably not far off, some Chimps are in the 80-90 range

[Phil1111]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Probably not far off, some Chimps are in the 80-90 range

Over 140 - Genius or almost genius
120 - 140 - Very superior intelligence
110 - 119 - Superior intelligence
90 - 109 - Average or normal intelligence
80 - 89 - Dullness
70 - 79 - Borderline deficiency in intelligence
Under 70 - Feeble-mindedness
https://www.iqtestforfree.net/iq-scale.html

[rain_e]

Originally Posted by Phil1111

Over 140 - Genius or almost genius
120 - 140 - Very superior intelligence
110 - 119 - Superior intelligence
90 - 109 - Average or normal intelligence
80 - 89 - Dullness
70 - 79 - Borderline deficiency in intelligence
Under 70 - Feeble-mindedness
https://www.iqtestforfree.net/iq-scale.html

That test is not free. I just went through the test and at the end it asks for a payment. Waste of time.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by rain_e

That test is not free. I just went through the test and at the end it asks for a payment. Waste of time.

Or in my case it asked for my Facebook login credentials. It looked like a legit portal, if it was 2004.

[Flames_Gimp]

These guys should get life in prison

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Probably not far off, some Chimps are in the 80-90 range

Then lock these animals up in a cage for the rest of their useless days like the monsters they are.

Drain on society

[OMG!WTF!]

I don't really see how being stupid or having FAS is an ncr defense. Having a psychotic break from reality is one thing. And one of the guys is schizophrenic as well. But this doesn't seem like a crime done by people who are out of touch with reality. They seem very much connected to what is real. I'm sure beyond a shadow of a doubt that they would benefit from counseling more so than jail. But I'm not sure they deserve less punishment than what is due any other rapist/kidnapper. If they get the standard aboriginal get out of jail free sentence I'll puke.

[CaptainCrunch]

If the low IQ combined with FAS means that they clearly can't tell right from wrong and are going to give into an impulse to kidnap, sodomize and rape a girl, then realistically in the name of public safety they should be put away and never ever get out.

Even if the defense is, they couldn't help themselves, then that alone should condemn them from being separated from society.

[foshizzle11]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...cing-1.4504120

The 'unmitigated evil' of kidnapping and repeatedly raping a teenage girl has netted two Calgary brothers 12-year prison sentences.

"[It's] certainly one of the most depraved offences that I've ever been involved with," said prosecutor Jonathan Hak.

"Just unmitigated evil, frankly."

Provincial court Judge Terry Semenuk sentenced the brothers Friday morning after the pair pleaded guilty in 2016 to kidnapping and sexual assault.

Wow, I am a bit surprised but I am glad they are getting a stiff sentence for this.

[OMG!WTF!]

Pretty good but still hate concurrent sentencing and time served bonus.

Interesting that there was no NCR verdict because the judge considered it impossible to rehabilitate them. That's sad.

[CaptainCrunch]

If its impossible to rehabilitate them as the judge considered then there's no way that they should ever see the civilized world again.

[OMG!WTF!]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

If its impossible to rehabilitate them as the judge considered then there's no way that they should ever see the civilized world again.

That'd be nice but sadly it's their first offense and you're not a dangerous offender until you have a history. I do wish the sentence were much longer but I understand why it's not.

[Since1984]

Originally Posted by foshizzle11

Wow, I am a bit surprised but I am glad they are getting a stiff sentence for this.

It is sad that as Canadians we consider a 12 year sentence for something this terrible "stiff". Those two pieces of human garbage need to be work food.

[Johnny Makarov]

What would Nasser get up here in Canada? 5 years instead of 40-175 years.
It pays to be a rapist/criminal up here in Canada.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

What would Nasser get up here in Canada? 5 years instead of 40-175 years.
It pays to be a rapist/criminal up here in Canada.

Comparing the rates of violent crime, Canada must be doing something right.

[Since1984]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Comparing the rates of violent crime, Canada must be doing something right.

I would be interested to see if it is population related.

[foshizzle11]

Originally Posted by Since1984

It is sad that as Canadians we consider a 12 year sentence for something this terrible "stiff". Those two pieces of human garbage need to be work food.

Yup, I agree but seeing how sentencing usually goes I think this is a decent amount of time in jail. I wonder if we hear about these guys again once released from prison.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Almost certainly would. Too low of an IQ to truly understand the consequences of their actions, no moral compass, there's not much of a chance they are rehabilitated. Unfortunately, I think best case scenario is you see these guys get caught doing something stupid but not life-altering to someone (i.e. get caught breaking into a car or something) and being sent right back. Otherwise, I hate to say it, but you hope they do something stupid in prison that either extends their time or gets them an 'early exit.'

Ideal world they are found NCR and put in a mental facility that would take care of them the rest of their lives with no chance of ever being out unsupervised.

[81MC]

"...very little society can do to prevent a repeat performance."
I can think of at least two ways. One being a hell of a lot longer than a 12 year sentence. Enraging.