04-20-2021, 06:12 PM
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#301
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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What do you mean how did this get approved? PR teams are racing to the pinnacle of wokeness.
George Floyd might get a holiday named after him, i wouldn't put it past this government.
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04-20-2021, 06:13 PM
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#302
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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There are bland, disinterested corporate statements like the one the NHL put out earlier today. Which are bad enough on their own.
Then there's straight-up offensive #### like that.
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04-20-2021, 06:15 PM
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#303
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by corporatejay
The takes from both sides right now are pretty cringe. Just let it breathe ffs.
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Both sides? What's cringe about people being satisfied with the ruling?
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04-20-2021, 06:19 PM
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#304
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
Both sides? What's cringe about people being satisfied with the ruling?
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Both sides of the political spectrum.
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04-20-2021, 06:22 PM
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#305
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Nanaimo
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
8 minutes and 46 seconds.
#### you.
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It was actually 9 minutes and 29 seconds.
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04-20-2021, 06:24 PM
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#306
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Nanaimo
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I bet you he and His lawyers wished William Bar would have kept his nose out of it in the summer. He had already pleaded to 10 years for 3rd degree.
This is better justice . One that reflects the situation more clearly.
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04-20-2021, 07:19 PM
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#307
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by jayswin
Both sides? What's cringe about people being satisfied with the ruling?
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The administration of justice shouldn't be some spectator sport for people to rally around and cheer on. It's a woeful thing and people celebrating are missing the point of the justice system.
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04-20-2021, 07:22 PM
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#308
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by #-3
The administration of justice shouldn't be some spectator sport for people to rally around and cheer on. It's a woeful thing and people celebrating are missing the point of the justice system.
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Like this.
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Originally Posted by SebC
Do any of the defense's "expert witnesses" get their expert credentials revoked now? It kind of seems like they should.
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The adversarial system would collapse if you things were the way you want them.
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04-20-2021, 07:31 PM
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#309
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Ben
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: God's Country (aka Cape Breton Island)
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I think one of the big factors for people celebrating the outcome is the fact that the murder took place on video, there were tons of witnesses, and no threat to the white officer from the black victim.
Yet...
The feeling was Chauvin would be acquitted on at least one of the charges.
The fact that a white police officer killed a black man, on video, with witnesses and was convicted on all charges is unprecedented.
Should people be celebrating when the system works?
No.
But, at the same time, it's the first time in almost 245 years that the system worked this way. So, I get it.
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04-20-2021, 08:07 PM
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#310
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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Originally Posted by zamler
The adversarial system would collapse if you things were the way you want them.
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Isn't that for the lawyers? I'm not suggesting disbarment. Nor am I suggesting this treatment for everyone. But if the court finds your "expert" position to be egregiously wrong, how can a reasonable person still consider you an expert?
Last edited by SebC; 04-20-2021 at 08:24 PM.
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04-20-2021, 09:30 PM
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#311
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Norm!
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Honestly, I'm happy and suprised at the convictions, I think that the appeals will be interesting, I don't know if it can order a retrial, but the defense can probably argue that not sequestering the jury or moving this trial, probably had the jury think about the possible violence that would occur if they didn't convict.
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04-20-2021, 09:37 PM
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#312
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mull
I know its not popular right now to say wait for the facts prior to passing judgment, but below is all I could find on your story. It's not racist, nor "blue lives matter" , nor anti BLM to simple say that unless you have more evidence, I will wait until passing judgment on this event. I hope more people do the same instead of jumping to conclusions.
What we appear to know: someone called 911 and reported that someone was trying to stab someone, the cops showed up, and the neighbors are reporting a 15 year old black person is dead, along with the hospital reporting that who was taken has died.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/columb...ict-comes-down
https://www.10tv.com/article/news/lo...8-099c105a0f20
If you have a different link with more info, I would invite you to share it as right now, its not an unrealistic conclusion that the deceased was trying to stab people prior to being shot.
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Footage is out. Justified shooting. The girl ran out of the house with a knife and stabbed one person before viciously attacking the other girl and nearly stabbing her to death. The officer yelled to put the knife down six times before shooting
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04-20-2021, 10:23 PM
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#313
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Lifetime Suspension
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That officer has nerves of steel. So much chaos and still able to filter it out and act quickly.
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04-20-2021, 10:34 PM
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#314
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Toronto
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Yeah that was a crazy scene with everything happening so fast in the moment. Shooting the one girl definitely saved the other girl in pink.
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04-21-2021, 02:56 AM
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#315
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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04-21-2021, 03:57 AM
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#316
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Franchise Player
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What a world we live in, kids don't fight anymore because mostly they don't know how because they aren't allowed to fight their own battles so they revert to weapons and ruin lives including their own, now days you can't punch a bully at school in the face because you'll likely get charged and kicked out.
I remember my Dad telling me 30 years ago he spanked me as a child for being bad because if he didn't I wouldn't have learned respect and rules, I laughed it off at the time but it seems he was right.
Society acts like now.
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04-21-2021, 06:07 AM
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#317
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Just saw the video, not sure how the cop doesn’t shoot her there. He can’t just stand there and watch a girl attempt murder. There are times when cops screw up and deserve to be punished for it, that wasn’t one of them.
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04-21-2021, 07:27 AM
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#318
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
Footage is out. Justified shooting. The girl ran out of the house with a knife and stabbed one person before viciously attacking the other girl and nearly stabbing her to death. The officer yelled to put the knife down six times before shooting
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Thanks for letting me know. I didn't like the other poster jumping to such a large conclusion, no matter that the daily beast headline tried to get people to think.
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04-21-2021, 08:03 AM
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#319
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personally, i can't say i am impressed with sports teams releasing statements on social media about this verdict. Are they now going to offer commentary on all cases, or just select ones? Are they going to offer commentary on other social issues?
I follow teams on social media to get info on them, there are other sources for judicial and political insights and when i want them, i will seek them out.
with all that said, clearly this ruling prevented a huge potential demonstrations in the streets. I'd assume that there will be an appeal.
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04-21-2021, 08:09 AM
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#320
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Northendzone
personally, i can't say i am impressed with sports teams releasing statements on social media about this verdict. Are they now going to offer commentary on all cases, or just select ones? Are they going to offer commentary on other social issues?
I follow teams on social media to get info on them, there are other sources for judicial and political insights and when i want them, i will seek them out.
with all that said, clearly this ruling prevented a huge potential demonstrations in the streets. I'd assume that there will be an appeal.
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This is where we are. I mean we had the President of the United States, the night before, praying for a particular verdict of a criminal case. We had Trudeau, ever the opportunist, immediately releasing a video applauding the verdict. When has this ever happened? Did Bill Clinton have an opinion on the OJ Simpson case? In fact he told Americans to stand together.
https://www.bustle.com/articles/1519...portant-issues
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