No, they wouldn't have totally scrapped it but the development path would have been considerably different had Cingular not accepted Apple's terms. They scrapped the ROKR and approached Cingular without Motorola before developing the phone. A deal in principle allowed them to start developing a phone based on touch screen, goofy iPod phones and OS X work they were already working on. They had just completed moving OS X to x86 so ARM was the next step.
Had Cingular backed out, Apple was prepared to buy wholesale minutes and resell them as a carrier. They would not have settled with any deal other than the one they got.
Nobody (outside of Apple's inner circle, perhaps) knows that. It is a great marketing strategy and it bolsters them in all future negotiations to have people believe they get what they want or they walk, but if they didn't get this deal, they may have taken another one.
Anyway, I think I'm veering away from my point, which is that the iPhone was coming to market no matter what. If it wasn't the deal they made, maybe they would have bought wholesale minutes, maybe they would have struck a deal with another carrier. But they needed to come to market with a phone.
A lot of phones were able to play MP3s four years ago or whenever it was the first iPhone came out. With the majority of people say over 12 having a cell phone, I'm sure the writing was on the wall that dedicated MP3 players were going to quickly begin losing market share to cell phones. Geez, I remember looking at my iPod and thinking why don't they just throw some phone guts in here?
What they've said they would do publicly and what they would have done are two different things. I think they teach that in Public Relations 101 in the first 10 minutes of the course.
What they've said they would do publicly and what they would have done are two different things. I think they teach that in Public Relations 101 in the first 10 minutes of the course.
Why don't we just eliminate all PR courses?
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What they've said they would do publicly and what they would have done are two different things. I think they teach that in Public Relations 101 in the first 10 minutes of the course.
OK. I think I'm finished with this conversation.
The facts are out there for you to peruse at your own leisure. It's not up to me to convince you not to stick a tinfoil hat on your head.
Since they already allow the robots to do the hotspot wifis, I don't see an issue with allowing it on iPhones. Mind you, it will be used a heck of a lot more, so who knows.
Since they already allow the robots to do the hotspot wifis, I don't see an issue with allowing it on iPhones. Mind you, it will be used a heck of a lot more, so who knows.
I didn't realize Rogers allows androids to do it ... that is fantastic news. Do the carriers actually have control over that functionality?
I didn't realize Rogers allows androids to do it ... that is fantastic news. Do the carriers actually have control over that functionality?
Well, I don't know. I'm getting a lot of mixed input. It seems that out of all 4 of my friends that have android phones, neither of them have the same one or are running the same OS... One guy says the hotspot thing is standard with the OS you get from Motorola, another one says that it only works because it doesn't show up as "tethered data" and the other two guys don't even know anything about it, but one of them is now even more pissed he didn't get an iPhone.
A kooky bunch, indeed.
Edit: Maybe someone here can clarify? I'd wander into the Android thread and ask them, but they'd probably just hang me from a tree instead.
Just updated to 4.3. There are some interesting new things...
- WiFi Hotspot works awesomely (can connect via wifi, bluetooth or usb)
- You can now control how many times you're notified about a new text (from 1 to 10)
So far, that's all I can see. It does seem a bit snappier, though. ()
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Just updated to 4.3. There are some interesting new things...
- WiFi Hotspot works awesomely (can connect via wifi, bluetooth or usb)
- You can now control how many times you're notified about a new text (from 1 to 10)
So far, that's all I can see. It does seem a bit snappier, though. ()
Awesome.
If you spend some time playing around with the hotspot, how much faster does it kill the battery than bluetooth tethering?
Well, I don't know. I'm getting a lot of mixed input. It seems that out of all 4 of my friends that have android phones, neither of them have the same one or are running the same OS... One guy says the hotspot thing is standard with the OS you get from Motorola, another one says that it only works because it doesn't show up as "tethered data" and the other two guys don't even know anything about it, but one of them is now even more pissed he didn't get an iPhone.
A kooky bunch, indeed.
Edit: Maybe someone here can clarify? I'd wander into the Android thread and ask them, but they'd probably just hang me from a tree instead.
maybe this will help
for the record my plan with Bell includes Tethering, though they don't go into detail on it. i know the US carriers charge extra for that so i'm surprised the Canadian ones don't. i tried testing it with my netbook, and while i can connect to the wifi hotspot on my Desire Z i can't actually browse any sites or ping any domain names. i have a suspicion that it's an issue with the netbook though, i wish i had some other devices to test with
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