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868904 · 03-08-2019, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Luder

Matthew Lombardi

If Lazar had Lombardi's skill and production, he'd be a bonafide NHLer.

Dube is the new Lombardi.

Poor Lombardi, if he were only born 10 years later, he'd be a 60 - 70 point guy in today's NHL and making $7 million a year.

habernac · 03-08-2019, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by kobasew19

That’s Rico Fata.

Russ Courtnall

PugnaciousIntern · 03-08-2019, 10:07 AM

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Pretty interested to know what the plan is for Valimaki. Has he lost his NHL starter's job for this year, barring injury?

More or less, I would imagine so. There’s too much depth to justify bringing him up, even though I do think he would be an improvement on several of those players. If he was good this year, imagine how good he’ll be next year with another half season of AHL and summer of training. Will be a star. Can’t wait to have him in the lineup next year.

Even though we lost Hamilton and Fox last summer, I anticipate that one of our defencemen are traded this summer. Valimaki, Kylington, and Andersson are all performing in the upper end of expectations so far, when most of us were anticipating that at least one of them were likely to flounder in the higher leagues. My bet is for a goalie, but also for an RFA forward (aka BT’s obsession). It’s fine to have great defensive depth, but the team’s goaltending depth has not planned out as planned this year, and with Smith likely departing this summer, I expect Treleving will make a minor splash.

Luder · 03-08-2019, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 868904

If Lazar had Lombardi's skill and production, he'd be a bonafide NHLer.

Dube is the new Lombardi.

Poor Lombardi, if he were only born 10 years later, he'd be a 60 - 70 point guy in today's NHL and making $7 million a year.

He had hands of stone though, all the speed in the world and cinder block hands.

868904 · 03-08-2019, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Luder

He had hands of stone though, all the speed in the world and cinder block hands.

He was still a consistent 40 - 50 point guy in his prime in an era of heavy hockey.

Lombo might not have had a great shot, but he was real good on scoring on breakaways and on the fly with his speed.

In today's game, he'd get even more breakaways and in OT alone he'd be a serious weapon.

When that guy got going, he was Bure-esque in terms of speed.

Luder · 03-08-2019, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 868904

He was still a consistent 40 - 50 point guy in his prime in an era of heavy hockey.

Lombo might not have had a great shot, but he was real good on scoring on breakaways and on the fly with his speed.

In today's game, he'd get even more breakaways and in OT alone he'd be a serious weapon.

When that guy got going, he was Bure-esque in terms of speed.

I still feel terrible for the guy after that Hatcher elbow.

CalgaryFan1988 · 03-08-2019, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by habernac

Russ Courtnall

Yeah he only had 744 points in 1029 games, totally comparable to Rico Fata.

Oling_Roachinen · 03-08-2019, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 868904

He was still a consistent 40 - 50 point guy in his prime in an era of heavy hockey.

Lombo might not have had a great shot, but he was real good on scoring on breakaways and on the fly with his speed.

In today's game, he'd get even more breakaways and in OT alone he'd be a serious weapon.

It wasn't the quantity of breakaways that held him back, it was his hands on the breakaways.

Also, we're talking about a guy who had one season before the full lockout. A guy who played until 2013, who's prime years where less than a decade ago. The game hasn't changed that much. It's not like he was playing in the 60s.

habernac · 03-08-2019, 10:37 AM

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Yeah he only had 744 points in 1029 games, totally comparable to Rico Fata.

I'm actually surprised by his goal totals. I remember him missing so many breakaways for the Canadiens.

CalgaryFan1988 · 03-08-2019, 10:41 AM

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I'm actually surprised by his goal totals. I remember him missing so many breakaways for the Canadiens.

I just remember him well because of my age and I watched a lot of the Canadiens growing up. Today they call that child abuse (kidding obviously).

868904 · 03-08-2019, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

It wasn't the quantity of breakaways that held him back, it was his hands on the breakaways.

Also, we're talking about a guy who had one season before the full lockout. A guy who played until 2013, who's prime years where less than a decade ago. The game hasn't changed that much. It's not like he was playing in the 60s.

Do you think Gaudreau puts up the production he does in the era that Lombardi played in?

If Lombardi was a 40-50 point guy in that era, I don't see how it's a stretch to say he could be a 60-70 point guy in today's game.

His scoring chances would be a lot higher in today's game.

CalgaryFan1988 · 03-08-2019, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 868904

Do you think Gaudreau puts up the production he does in the era that Lombardi played in?

If Lombardi was a 40-50 point guy in that era, I don't see how it's a stretch to say he could be a 60-70 point guy in today's game.

His scoring chances would be a lot higher in today's game.

That and the fact Hatcher's style wouldn't transition to this era, so Lombardi would have entered his prime healthy. I don't think 60-70 points would have been a stretch.

Oling_Roachinen · 03-08-2019, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 868904

Do you think Gaudreau puts up the production he does in the era that Lombardi played in?

Yes. Because the era Gaudreau played in is the era that Lombardi played in. No one is going to convince me that things changed so much in the 2013 lockout that they are no longer the same era.

Kipper_3434 · 03-08-2019, 10:48 AM

Lomb went fivehole every single time he could. Goalies figured him out

CalgaryFan1988 · 03-08-2019, 11:02 AM

Lombardi refused to sign with the Oilers, we should only speak highly of him.

On topic, I hope we see Lazar soon.

AltaGuy · 03-08-2019, 11:06 AM

Paul Byron was pretty similar to Lombardi. He only makes 3.4M, but he's a big cog in a surprising Habs team this season.

Fan in Exile · 03-08-2019, 11:12 AM

Seeing this thread had picked up, I expected some comments about Lazar. Why use the call-up if you aren't going to get him in? Not like the Flames are flying offensively right now. Feel bad for him. Not good for confidence or easy to break in when you haven't played a game at all in 2-3 weeks.

Flash Walken · 03-08-2019, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Fan in Exile

Seeing this thread had picked up, I expected some comments about Lazar. Why use the call-up if you aren't going to get him in? Not like the Flames are flying offensively right now. Feel bad for him. Not good for confidence or easy to break in when you haven't played a game at all in 2-3 weeks.

Anyone Lazar would draw into the lineup to replace is playing really well right now, but they aren't a fit further up the lineup.

With an Injury to Bennett maybe you move Mangiapane up and lazar slots in on the 4th line, but it will have to be based on an injury.