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View Poll Results: Are the Flames a better team now than they were in 2021-22?
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Yes, they are better.
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No, they are worse.
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No, they are unchanged
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08-18-2022, 01:01 PM
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#41
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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They are different, that is fore sure. I think it will take a while for the group to play Suttrr’s system, so perhaps less points than last year. Might still be a better team though.
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O.K. there has been a lot of talk on whether or not MacTavish has actually done a good job for us, most fans on this board are very basic in their analysis and I feel would change their opinion entirely if the team was successful.
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08-18-2022, 01:02 PM
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#42
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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I think we are deeper and harder to play against.
I think that makes us a better playoff team
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08-18-2022, 01:06 PM
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#43
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Draft Pick
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Wouldn't mind seeing them move the Lucic contract and bring in a top 6 winger, like Kessel!
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08-18-2022, 01:10 PM
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#44
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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I went through this a bit on the other thread:
Huberdeau-Lindholm-Mangiapane v Landeskog-Mackinnon-Rantanen
Toffoli-Kadri-Dube/Coleman v Nichushkin-Kadri-Lekhonen
Pelletier-Backlund-Coleman/Dube v Burakovsky-Newhook-O'Connor
Lucic-Ruzicka/Rooney-Lewis v Cogliano-Helm-Compher
Tanev-Weegar v Makar-Toews
Andersson-Hanifin v Girard-Byram
Kylington-Zadorov v Manson-Johsnon
Markstrom/Vladar v Keumper/Francouz
They aren't that far apart and might end up being pretty similar teams
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08-18-2022, 01:11 PM
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#45
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Ja. Si. Oui.
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08-18-2022, 01:11 PM
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#46
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Franchise Player
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We have really good ingredients, great coaching, I think it will all depend on the X factor of chemistry.
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08-18-2022, 01:14 PM
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#47
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Dec 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CalgarySames
Wouldn't mind seeing them move the Lucic contract and bring in a top 6 winger, like Kessel!
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Just slap Phil the Thrill on that second line and let 'er buck.
Embrace the chaos.
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08-18-2022, 01:15 PM
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#48
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I'd argue the Flames' team strengths just went from:
1. Winger
2. Goalie
3. Defence
4. Centre
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1. Centre
2. Defence
3. Goalie
4. Winger
Without downgrading our Vezina-caliber goalie.
Even if we lost a bit of talent going from Tkachuk to Kadri + Weegar, it's only a small downgrade, but the overall makeup of the team is much stronger. For the first time ever we are built down the middle with two potentially p/g centres who are defensively responsible and a third .5 p/g elite shutdown centre.
Add that to a Top 5 Defence, Top 5 Goalie, Top 5 coach and an elite distributor on the wing and I think we have a very good chance of being an overall better team this season.
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08-18-2022, 01:24 PM
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#49
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Lifetime Suspension
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I'm interested to see how Pelletier and Phillips could affect the landscape at wing.
The door is open wider for them now than it was a month ago.
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08-18-2022, 01:25 PM
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#50
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djsFlames
I'm interested to see how Pelletier and Phillips could affect the landscape at wing.
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I'd say the way things are shaping up and with Sutter these two will be on the farm for another year.
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08-18-2022, 01:26 PM
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#51
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Franchise Player
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Still have a Jack Adams level coach
Still have a Vezina candidate goalie
Now deeper at C
Now deeper on D
On paper this team is better IMO
Hopefully it plays out that way on the ice.
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08-18-2022, 01:34 PM
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#52
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Franchise Player
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Yes.
Huberdeau > Gaudreau.
One of Lindholm, Backlund or Kadri will always be on the ice against McDavid/MacKinnon et al.
Weegar >>> Gudbranson
And we still have all our 1sts, our three recent 1st round prospects, and Looch.
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08-18-2022, 03:06 PM
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#53
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: winnipeg
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Really hard to tell but losing to that Oiler team sucked and the two guys the Flames lost in the off season didnt deliver in that playoff series. So am personally glad that there is a new "core" and looking forward to seeing what they can do.
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08-18-2022, 03:11 PM
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#54
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Ask me a year from now.
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08-18-2022, 03:16 PM
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#56
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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We weren't going to win a Cup with the core players we had. This new group of players adds much more depth to the team and will be much harder to play against.
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08-18-2022, 03:18 PM
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#57
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
Nah
People say Kadri is a liability in the playoffs
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He sure as hell wasn't this year.
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08-18-2022, 03:18 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
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On paper it is hard not to say yes every day and twice on Sunday.
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08-18-2022, 03:22 PM
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#59
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
Nah
People say Kadri is a liability in the playoffs
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Sarcasm right?
Not sure you caught those GWGs this year.
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08-18-2022, 03:24 PM
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#60
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dion
We weren't going to win a Cup with the core players we had. This new group of players adds much more depth to the team and will be much harder to play against.
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My thoughts too. JG and MT are great players but I never once got the sense that they had what it takes to win at this level in the post-season.
Flames just pulled two top players from the presidents trophy winners and a top player from the Stanley Cup winner. Pretty sure they took a step forward in the "right stuff" department.
(Cue Dr.Evil gif)
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