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Old 04-14-2019, 08:56 AM   #2521
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NDP are crooks and have crippled the economy and balance sheet. They dont care about kids - they left them a huge liability to manage
Any other pre-packaged talking points you want to roll out?

I am not necessarily an NDP supporter...but I have a hard time with the talking point of "they crippled the economy and they took on debt". The economy was crippled by the lack of intelligent foresight by the party ruling the previous 40 years. The debt was taken on as a way to keep the debt from blowing up. Dont get me wrong...I believe the NDP has been very inefficient in their investments. However to suggest that they are the ones that crippled the economy is baseless revisionist history...
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https://edmontonjournal.com/opinion/...ronger-economy

Edmonton Journal editorial board endorses UCP.

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. NDP Leader Rachel Notley’s carrot approach on the pipeline file was a well-meaning endeavour but it failed to produce results. Now, it’s time to try the stick.
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NDP are crooks and have crippled the economy and balance sheet. They dont care about kids - they left them a huge liability to manage
Caring about kids means not leaving them with heath and education deficits, a one-trick economy, and a climate catastrophe.
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Or massive debt that cripples the financial ability to provide all those other things.

It doesn’t have to by either/or, in fact they have to go together. Sustainable health and education programs can only occur if the financial health of the province is being managed judiciously.
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Old 04-14-2019, 09:54 AM   #2525
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Interested to see the NDP's actual opinion on things like pipelines when they aren't in charge anymore.

My guess is they go back to the "pipelines bad" party line like at the federal level
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Voted Alberta Party in the advance poll. I just can't support either the NDP or UCP platforms. NDP just don't seem to get it on economic management, but the UCP platform on education and social issues is incredibly awful and as a parent of young kids also important to me. Probably not much chance of an outcome other than UCP majority but the best I can do is cast my ballot for the platform and candidate that look best to me.
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Interested to see the NDP's actual opinion on things like pipelines when they aren't in charge anymore.

My guess is they go back to the "pipelines bad" party line like at the federal level
This is what I’m waiting for.
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Caring about kids means not leaving them with heath and education deficits, a one-trick economy, and a climate catastrophe.
Yeah, let's saddle them with massive debt that will require generations to pay back.
Oh, yeah, let's kill the Oil and gas industry while we're at it, the best way the province has of paying back that massive debt.
but, subsidized daycare for the wealthy now. yay!
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Its not even that she isnt defending Alberta from Foreign interference, she is actively assisting that Foreign influence. Is it to her own personal gain?

Because if shes acting on behalf of a Foreign influence to the detriment of the constituents who elected her and to whom she is beholden to represent their best interests then we have a serious problem.
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https://edmontonjournal.com/opinion/...ronger-economy

Edmonton Journal editorial board endorses UCP.
Same with the Calgary Herald

https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/ed...ge-to-be-heard
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https://mobile.twitter.com/dustin_co...58689919610883. (Edmonton Journal reporter)

https://mobile.twitter.com/JWongGlob...68140965810177
(Global reporter)

Allegations that a fake robocall went out to a Sherwood Park riding. Caller impersonating Stephen Mandell and telling people to vote strategically to defeat the ndp and that Mandell supports Kenney.
Person who recieved the call is apparently a business leader and knows the AB Party candidate. He called the number back and it was went to a number that the person had no idea what he was talking about.



As a reminder, the Michael Sona robocall scandal from a few years back.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Sona
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https://mobile.twitter.com/dustin_co...58689919610883. (Edmonton Journal reporter)

https://mobile.twitter.com/JWongGlob...68140965810177
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Allegations that a fake robocall went out to a Sherwood Park riding. Caller impersonating Stephen Mandell and telling people to vote strategically to defeat the ndp and that Mandell supports Kenney.
Person who recieved the call is apparently a business leader and knows the AB Party candidate. He called the number back and it was went to a number that the person had no idea what he was talking about.



As a reminder, the Michael Sona robocall scandal from a few years back.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Sona
Wow. That’s really unbelievable! I mean unbelievable in the context that we’re two days from the election and we have this bombshell.

It’s hard to think that the UCP would be stupid enough to try this. Then again, this campaign has basically seemed like they’re trying to lose.
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at 73 isn't it just as likely Mandell made those calls and then forgot?
happens to my grandpa all the time.
Remember this is the same guy who forgot to file election papers on time.
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Is it just one person reporting this? Like only one person got a robocall?
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at 73 isn't it just as likely Mandell made those calls and then forgot?
happens to my grandpa all the time.
Remember this is the same guy who forgot to file election papers on time.
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Is it just one person reporting this? Like only one person got a robocall?
Not very likely at all. Unless other people pipe up they received calls as well I am going to file this under trash.
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Yeah, let's saddle them with massive debt that will require generations to pay back.
Oh, yeah, let's kill the Oil and gas industry while we're at it, the best way the province has of paying back that massive debt.
but, subsidized daycare for the wealthy now. yay!
A simple sales tax (gasp) could reduce the debt in no time.

Also, so-called fiscal conservative governments here and elsewhere have show an inability to reduce debt.
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A simple sales tax (gasp) could reduce the debt in no time.

Also, so-called fiscal conservative governments here and elsewhere have show an inability to reduce debt.
Wut.

Interest rates are low, the added revenue sales tax added now will simply be used to leverage more debt.

Alberta's debt/gdp ratio is nothing compared to other provinces that do have a sales tax.
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A simple sales tax (gasp) could reduce the debt in no time.

Also, so-called fiscal conservative governments here and elsewhere have show an inability to reduce debt.
Totally.

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