07-22-2018, 05:12 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
He's still an RFA though, the team getting him would have him for another year at least.
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Thats a good point.
Heres a question I have though because I'm not an expert on Arbitration, but if a team were to take Trouba on would he be eligible for Arbitration again in his last year of RFA?
I mean, if he has a stellar year and is traded at the deadline would the new team be basically held ransom if he goes back to Arbitration is awarded a huge deal? Even if its only for 1 year?
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07-22-2018, 05:22 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Thats a good point.
Heres a question I have though because I'm not an expert on Arbitration, but if a team were to take Trouba on would he be eligible for Arbitration again in his last year of RFA?
I mean, if he has a stellar year and is traded at the deadline would the new team be basically held ransom if he goes back to Arbitration is awarded a huge deal? Even if its only for 1 year?
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Yes but can still walk away from it if it’s over the 4.2 mill or whatever it is now
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07-22-2018, 07:26 PM
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#23
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First Line Centre
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That's a lot for what is essentially equivalent to a bridge deal.
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07-22-2018, 07:43 PM
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#24
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Contract is for one RFA year, he has hit 30 points once, and has only played more than 65 games once.
Exactly why should he get $5.5M? That amount would be a lot even if the contract included a couple UFA years.
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07-22-2018, 08:16 PM
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#25
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Originally Posted by White Out 403
The NHL arbitration process is completely broken and dumb.
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I think the process is quite successful at its stated goal of avoiding cases going to arbitration. Years ago on the Fan 960 they had one of the player agents who was involved with the NHL when they developed the arbitration process. The goal of it was to provide unpleasant outcomes for both the team and the player of arbitration was to occur. The goal being to incentivize settling before the hearing.
In that sense with only a few cases reaching an arbitration award each year the system works. I do think the baseball process which encourages reasonable offers is better when it gets to the actual mechanics of deciding an award.
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07-22-2018, 08:27 PM
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#26
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Contract is for one RFA year, he has hit 30 points once, and has only played more than 65 games once.
Exactly why should he get $5.5M? That amount would be a lot even if the contract included a couple UFA years.
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Yeah I think this guy is overrated. He's a good defenseman but he doesn't have the offensive upside to become a top pairing guy IMO. Looks more like a Travis Hamonic type defensemen and Hamonic isn't making $5.5 million.
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07-22-2018, 10:24 PM
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#27
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Kamloops
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Yeah I think this guy is overrated. He's a good defenseman but he doesn't have the offensive upside to become a top pairing guy IMO. Looks more like a Travis Hamonic type defensemen and Hamonic isn't making $5.5 million.
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Agree in principle but the cap was much lower when Hamonic signed his deal. Probably pretty comparable given where the cap is now.
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07-22-2018, 11:10 PM
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#28
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Keeping Trouba could be like a deadline deal for the Jets. They have a promising roster for this season and might wanna go all in for the Stanley Cup.
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07-23-2018, 01:51 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: About 5200 Miles from the Dome
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Sorry if this has been clarified but does the party that gets to choose the term 1 or 2 years get to decide after the arbitration judgement? I was under the impression that the term had to be decided prior to the hearing.
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07-23-2018, 02:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Yeah I think this guy is overrated. He's a good defenseman but he doesn't have the offensive upside to become a top pairing guy IMO. Looks more like a Travis Hamonic type defensemen and Hamonic isn't making $5.5 million.
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Except for a bit of edge his game is nothing like Hamonic's, if you could combine Hamonic's heart with Trouba's skating and passing you might have another Doughty.
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07-23-2018, 02:11 AM
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#31
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chingas
Sorry if this has been clarified but does the party that gets to choose the term 1 or 2 years get to decide after the arbitration judgement? I was under the impression that the term had to be decided prior to the hearing.
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It's part of the written brief that has to be submitted at least 48 hours before the scheduled start of the hearing. If it's not specified in the brief, the default is one year.
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07-23-2018, 06:34 AM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Except for a bit of edge his game is nothing like Hamonic's, if you could combine Hamonic's heart with Trouba's skating and passing you might have another Doughty.
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Where would the goals and points come from? Doughty has elite hockey I.Q. and offensive skills. You are selling him short saying Trouba (combined with Hamonic or not) is comparable.
Last edited by Erick Estrada; 07-23-2018 at 06:41 AM.
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07-23-2018, 07:26 AM
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#33
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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I might be in the minority but a hanifin trouba pairing would be pretty sexy. Could we add something to hamonic to make it worthwhile for the jets?
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07-23-2018, 07:35 AM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Breton Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
I might be in the minority but a hanifin trouba pairing would be pretty sexy. Could we add something to hamonic to make it worthwhile for the jets?
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Why would Trouba want to go from one cold Prairie Canadian city to another? He wants to return to the states. If he doesn't want to stay in Winnipeg he's unlikely to believe Calgary is the New York of the prairies.
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07-23-2018, 07:42 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by White Out 403
Why would Trouba want to go from one cold Prairie Canadian city to another? He wants to return to the states. If he doesn't want to stay in Winnipeg he's unlikely to believe Calgary is the New York of the prairies.
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Well theres a cosmic difference between living in Calgary vs Winnipeg so perhaps he could fall in love with the happy medium.
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07-23-2018, 07:45 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Breton Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Well theres a cosmic difference between living in Calgary vs Winnipeg so perhaps he could fall in love with the happy medium.
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Sure there is.
He's either going to commit to Winnipeg or be dealt to an American team. Full stop.
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07-23-2018, 07:54 AM
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#37
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by White Out 403
Sure there is.
He's either going to commit to Winnipeg or be dealt to an American team. Full stop.
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Wouldn’t shock me if he ended up in Toronto
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07-23-2018, 07:57 AM
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#38
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Have to imagine he will be traded to a US team by this time next season.
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07-23-2018, 07:58 AM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Breton Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Wouldn’t shock me if he ended up in Toronto
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Toronto might work simply due to proximity of his hometown. It's also Toronto, which is a very different place than a Western Canadian city. But all signs point to him wanting to return to the States for some time town. Detroit would be the obvious top of mind destiation.
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07-23-2018, 08:46 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by White Out 403
Toronto might work simply due to proximity of his hometown. It's also Toronto, which is a very different place than a Western Canadian city. But all signs point to him wanting to return to the States for some time town. Detroit would be the obvious top of mind destiation.
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It’s hilarious how you attempt to draw equivalency between Winnipeg and Calgary by using the umbrella term “Western Canadian cities” as if they are all the same thing.
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