12-01-2018, 03:28 PM
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#61
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#1 Goaltender
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Favorites:
Tampa
Toronto
Nashville
Winnipeg
Columbus
Contenders
Colorado
Boston
Washington
Calgary
Carolina
Pittsburgh
San jose
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12-01-2018, 03:56 PM
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#62
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GullFoss
Favorites:
Tampa
Toronto
Nashville
Winnipeg
Columbus
Contenders
Colorado
Boston
Washington
Calgary
Carolina
Pittsburgh
San jose
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You have Columbus as a favourite?
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12-01-2018, 04:01 PM
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#63
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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I think Buffalo is at least in the second grouping.
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12-01-2018, 04:05 PM
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#64
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First Line Centre
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And you could argue for Colorado to be in the first.
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12-01-2018, 04:24 PM
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#65
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GullFoss
Favorites:
Tampa
Toronto
Nashville
Winnipeg
Columbus
Contenders
Colorado
Boston
Washington
Calgary
Carolina
Pittsburgh
San jose
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So what you're saying is, any team that makes the playoffs could win the Stanley Cup?
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12-01-2018, 04:25 PM
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#66
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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I'd agree with maybe them being in that second group of teams with the likes of Boston, Colorado, Colombus. Not a favourite by any means but a WCF appearance isn't a stretch
Last edited by btimbit; 12-01-2018 at 06:34 PM.
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12-02-2018, 11:57 AM
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#67
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Macindoc
You have Columbus as a favourite?
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I do. Very underrated defense group (arguably top 5 in the league), a top 10 game breaker, the best goalie in the world and a very strong 1,3, 4 forward lines. The only real knock on the team is that they're missing a second high quality centre to compliment dubois.
All in all that's a real good recipe to take a trip to the finals. If Bob gets hot - he's almost unstoppable with that defensive group in front of him. And then add to that a first line that can break open games and a third and fourth line that can provide depth scoring.
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12-02-2018, 12:02 PM
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#68
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
I think this year it would be nice to see them comfortably make the playoffs and win 1-2 rounds. In the off-season, it would be nice if they can a goalie (dont fully trust Rittich yet) and another top 6/9 player.
Sign one of Bobrovsky, Varlamov, or Talbot
Sign one of Eberle or Hayes
Trade Frolik and Stone for picks
2019-2020
Gaudreau-Lindholm-Neal
Tkachuk-Monahan-Eberle/Hayes
Bennett-Backlund-Ryan
Dube-Jankowski-Mangiapane
Brodie-Giordano
Hanifin-Valimaki
Andersson-Hamonic
Kylington
Talbot/Bob/Varlamov
Rittich
...Then if Neal doesn't do well, hope he gets picked up by Seattle
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Lol. Talbot. You're better off with what you have.
And Eberle? You want a one dimensional defensively weak winger who disappear s in crunch time?
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12-02-2018, 12:12 PM
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#69
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GullFoss
I do. Very underrated defense group (arguably top 5 in the league), a top 10 game breaker, the best goalie in the world and a very strong 1,3, 4 forward lines. The only real knock on the team is that they're missing a second high quality centre to compliment dubois.
All in all that's a real good recipe to take a trip to the finals. If Bob gets hot - he's almost unstoppable with that defensive group in front of him. And then add to that a first line that can break open games and a third and fourth line that can provide depth scoring.
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I agree. I think Columbus is the sleeper of the Eastern conference
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12-02-2018, 12:44 PM
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#70
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Teams in the standings vs their underlying numbers ...
Buffalo, Washington and Toronto as pretenders?
Philly, Jersey, Pittsburgh and Carolina as ripped off?
Flames who they are.
Code:
Team Rk Stats Diff
Philadelphia Flyers 27 7 20
New Jersey Devils 29 10 19
Pittsburgh Penguins 26 9 17
Carolina Hurricanes 20 4 16
San Jose Sharks 17 2 15
Los Angeles Kings 31 17 14
Vegas Golden Knights 14 1 13
Florida Panthers 25 12 13
Minnesota Wild 13 5 8
Montreal Canadiens 16 8 8
St Louis Blues 30 22 8
Chicago Blackhawks 28 21 7
Arizona Coyotes 23 20 3
Calgary Flames 7 6 1
Edmonton Oilers 18 19 -1
Tampa Bay Lightning 1 3 -2
Boston Bruins 10 13 -3
Winnipeg Jets 9 14 -5
New York Rangers 19 25 -6
Detroit Red Wings 21 27 -6
Vancouver Canucks 24 30 -6
Columbus Blue Jackets 8 15 -7
Ottawa Senators 22 29 -7
Nashville Predators 3 11 -8
Colorado Avalanche 5 16 -11
Dallas Stars 11 23 -12
New York Islanders 15 28 -13
Toronto Maple Leafs 2 18 -16
Washington Capitals 6 24 -18
Anaheim Ducks 12 31 -19
Buffalo Sabres 4 26 -22
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12-02-2018, 12:52 PM
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#72
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Franchise Player
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Stats leaders:
1) Vegas
2) San Jose
3) Tampa (sure)
4) Carolina
5) Minnesota
6) Calgary
7) Philadelphia
8) Montreal
9) Pittsburgh
10) New Jersey
Hard to buy what that is selling
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12-02-2018, 01:23 PM
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#73
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Stats leaders:
1) Vegas
2) San Jose
3) Tampa (sure)
4) Carolina
5) Minnesota
6) Calgary
7) Philadelphia
8) Montreal
9) Pittsburgh
10) New Jersey
Hard to buy what that is selling
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You think?
Vegas, SJ, Tampa, Carolina, Minny, Pittsburgh are known to be good two way teams. Montreal got off to a good start, Philly has goaltending woes but playing better than their record dictates.
I do a combined stats ranking ... average of the "for" categories with the average for the "vs" categories.
Gets away from focusing too much on say just CF% and not enough on scoring chances etc.
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12-02-2018, 01:50 PM
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#74
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
You think?
Vegas, SJ, Tampa, Carolina, Minny, Pittsburgh are known to be good two way teams. Montreal got off to a good start, Philly has goaltending woes but playing better than their record dictates.
I do a combined stats ranking ... average of the "for" categories with the average for the "vs" categories.
Gets away from focusing too much on say just CF% and not enough on scoring chances etc.
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Yes I think.
How can you look at that list and conclude that the stats you are considering is doing a good job of representing who the best teams are?
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12-02-2018, 02:04 PM
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#75
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Las Vegas was a cup finalist. SJ and Tampa preseason favourites. Penguins have two recent cups. Carolina in everyone’s list for pushing the play. Calgary clearly playing well.
Thats 6 of 10
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12-02-2018, 02:15 PM
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#76
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Franchise Player
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you're counting Carolina, who are stats darlings but aren't very good. That's a circular argument.
Vegas hasn't been one of the best teams in the league this year (yet). Neither have the Pens. And SJ has been maybe in the 10-15 range, but not elite (ranked 2nd).
I think most people would agree that the best teams this year (so far) have been:
NAS
TB
TOR
COL
WAS
WPG
then maybe
BUF
CAL
MIN
BOS
Two of the top 3, and 5 of the top 6 missing.
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12-02-2018, 02:52 PM
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#77
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Not sure I agree. Toronto has leaky defence an amazing goaltending so they be up a list of the standings but not necessarily up the list and how they’re playing
Vegas almost the complete opposite where they were playing well but we’re not getting the goaltending
Nashville and Winnipeg or both teams that are doing not quite as well as expected but are still playing well so there are non-issues in terms of differentials
The whole point of having a statistics ranking versus the standings ranking isn’t that they should mirror each other 100%. It’s about pointing out teams that seem to have numbers that suggest they are playing either better or worse than they should
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12-02-2018, 02:54 PM
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#78
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Vancouver and the Islanders with the two teams early if that had good records but we’re playing pretty putrid. Buffaloes joined that list of late. the oilers certainly are getting better results than they should of late
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12-02-2018, 02:58 PM
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#79
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Franchise Player
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Of course they shouldn't agree 100%.
But if you looking at the standings as one suggestive list, and the stats as another, the stats list is not close to doing as good of a job of suggesting which have been the best teams this year.
And say what you want about Toronto and Nashville, but you aren't going to get much support if you try to claim they haven't been among the top 5 teams so far this year.
Vegas has been good since Calgary blew them out, but they weren't playing very well before that. You're talking your position here, IMO.
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12-02-2018, 03:02 PM
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#80
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Vegas has been good since Calgary blew them out, but they weren't playing very well before that. You're talking your position here, IMO.
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They sure crapped the bed last night. They should be ashamed of themselves.
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