Making Changes to Flames Systems

[robbie111]

What changes would you make to improve the Flames current systems?


Wanted to leave this open ended but I'll list a few issues that are driving me crazy. Getting hemmed in and always moving the puck up the boards or glass. Opposing teams have it too well scouted and we can't get out of our end anymore.

That drop back pass on the powerplay coming up the ice leaves every player completely flatfooted at the blueline.

[crapshoot]

I agree with the breakout plays, especially with the bottom six, but to me the PP entries seem to be functioning alright, even though there were no chance of going to work on the PP this time around.

What bugs me the most so far this season is not the system as much as the all around sloppiness and the losing of puck battles and foot races. I believe that Gulutzan has a pretty decent system in place, but there is no obvious reason for the Flames to be behind the play so much as they have been early in this season. In all losses so far they have been outhustled by the opposing team and have basically failed to come up with any kind of answer. Poor passing plays, pucks bouncing away from sticks, sloppy zone exits. They sure need to clean that up.

[madmike]

I don’t know if it’s the system that’s an issue as much as the 4-5 extra power plays the Flames give up each game. It’s getting ridiculous. They’re something like -13 in PP differential the last three games alone.

[dissentowner]

This should be a gem of a thread.

[erikk3]

####ing blow it up and trade everyone, Guy Fawkes the Saddledome and bee line it to Seattle

[Erick Estrada]

The major change needed is team discipline needs to be improved. This is a long term problem going back to last season that needs to be addressed and fixed. You aren't going to have long term success giving opponents 5+ power plays every game. Tkachuk should have been benched for the remainder of the game after taking that selfish penalty at the end of the 2nd. Unfortunately it appears that benching players may be the only way to get this through to the players.

[Backlunds_socks]

Get rid of gg

[bigrangy]

The defense need to play a more active part in the transition game. The Flames at least 4 d-men that are capable of taking the puck from behind their own goal line, beating one guy, and skating it out past the blue line. And yet, they might do it once a game tops.

The offensive zone entries need to be more than Johnny doing Johnny things then waiting for his slow linemates to catch up so he can dish them a pass. The defensemen need to jump up and lead the rush and lead the zone entries as well. The GM has assembled a tremendously skilled set of defensemen and yet GG barely makes use of them.

[HOWITZER]

Originally Posted by Backlunds_socks

Get rid of gg

[DropIt]

Armchair coach thread

[EVERLAST]

Discipline and Effort......2 things we don't seem to have this year.

Systems are fine.

[Looch City]

Play better, score more goals, give up less goals.

[really?]

The scheme is fine, like all effective systems it needs to be employed by fast, motivated individuals. Tweek the team with 2-3 better skaters and create a hunger amongst the players and questions about a system will evaporate.

[scotty2hotty]

Originally Posted by really?

The scheme is fine, like all effective systems it needs to be employed by fast, motivated individuals. Tweek the team with 2-3 better skaters and create a hunger amongst the players and questions about a system will evaporate.

Does a good coach not adapt his system to match the strengths of the players he has?

[greyshep]

Originally Posted by robbie111

That drop back pass on the powerplay coming up the ice leaves every player completely flatfooted at the blueline.

As much as I really dislike it, the bump back pass on the PP zone entry is designed to do exactly that. Leave the opposition flat footed as the late guy enters. Yes it ends up stopping some of our players too, but thats part of the equation.

My gripe with it is how it risks turnovers and breakaways the other direction, but the Flames are certainly not the only team using it. I would say most teams employ the method.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by greyshep

As much as I really dislike it, the bump back pass on the PP zone entry is designed to do exactly that. Leave the opposition flat footed as the late guy enters. Yes it ends up stopping some of our players too, but thats part of the equation.

My gripe with it is how it risks turnovers and breakaways the other direction, but the Flames are certainly not the only team using it. I would say most teams employ the method.

I can't think of a single team in the NHL that doesn't use it at some point. It's become commonplace.

[CaptainCrunch]

How about not taking dumba$$, lazy stupid penalties?

But then again, I'm sure that's not part of the coaches system

GG - "Ok boys, we need to work on our penalty numbers, they were a bit low there in the first few games, so lets get those up. Matty, Sammy, go out and do something stupid to get the refs attention, maybe work on those world class hooks of yours. All right three, two, one

[CroFlames]

One particular play I've noticed at least twice in every game so far is the stupid slap-shot pass from behind our net, ringing around the boards to the winger waiting at the far blue line.

It rarely, if ever works and I think it's just high risk, low reward.

I'm not opposed to stretch passes to a player who is skating thru neutral ice, but I much prefer crisp short passes when exiting the defensive zone.

On offense, I would literally just encourage players to put at least 10% more shots on net and hope for a scramble. Not pretty, but guys like Bennett could benefit from those plays, and Tkachuk effing excels at it.

[Jiri Hrdina]

For me the huge volume of penalties are impacting the overall game. When you are spending that much time in the box, you have no ability to generate momentum offensively. And your blueline gets exhausted.
A guy like Johnny is a feel player - and when he's not getting offensive ice - he doesn't get a chance to get his game going.
The lack of discipline is the biggest issue...everything flows from there.

[PepsiFree]

They just need to take it one game at a time, y’know? Um they’ve got to give uh 110% and play a full 60 minutes here. A real 200ft game.