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Old 07-12-2014, 11:43 AM   #21
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New article on the upcoming show:
http://mashable.com/2014/07/11/bette...-saul-details/
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Old 07-23-2014, 12:33 PM   #22
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A promotional 'real' billboard has shown up in Albuquerque, New Mexico depicting a younger Saul with the character's original name, James McGill.



http://defamer.gawker.com/real-bette...ium=socialflow
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Old 07-24-2014, 05:53 AM   #23
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If we already know Saul's fate how are any life or death situations going to have any suspense?
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Old 07-24-2014, 06:43 AM   #24
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If we already know Saul's fate how are any life or death situations going to have any suspense?
Good writing and directing? Everyone knew how Apollo 13 was going to end but it still had moments of suspense.
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I'll check this out like most BB fans but I'm not overly optimistic given the poor track record of spinoff series.
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I'll check this out like most BB fans but I'm not overly optimistic given the poor track record of spinoff series.
With Gilligan at the helm to kick it off I'm actually very optimistic. It will be worth it all entirely just to have one more scene with Mike (and hopefully Kuby).
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Old 07-26-2014, 08:46 AM   #27
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I'll check this out like most BB fans but I'm not overly optimistic given the poor track record of spinoff series.
Well, some spinoffs are pretty good such as The Simpsons and Frasier. Family Matters had a long run, too.
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King of Queens and The Jeffersons as well.
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Maude and The Facts of Life lasted a long time on the air as well
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King of Queens and Family Matters were spin-offs?
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Simpsons is a spin off as well?
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King of Queens = Everybody Loves Raymond
Family Matters = Perfect Strangers
Simpsons = Tracey Ullman Show
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King of Queens was not a spin-off of Everybody Loves Raymond. Kevin James had appeared on Raymond a few times as one of Ray's sportscaster friends, and that led to CBS offering him his own show, but it was a different character.

Later, he appeared on Raymond as his KoQ character in a CBS crossover event, but that was after KoQ had been on the air for a few years.
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King of Queens was not a spin-off of Everybody Loves Raymond. Kevin James had appeared on Raymond a few times as one of Ray's sportscaster friends, and that led to CBS offering him his own show, but it was a different character.

Later, he appeared on Raymond as his KoQ character in a CBS crossover event, but that was after KoQ had been on the air for a few years.
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I dunno if I'd call The Simpsons a spin off of the Tracy Ullman show. Their shorts just premiered there. And I don't think it was even that many. Guess I could go wiki it right now.

EDIT: Ok, it appears the shorts lasted almost three full seasons, but still, calling it a spin-off isn't quite right. They just liked to have animated bits before and after the commercials. It didn't really have anything to do with the rest of the show.

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King of Queens was not a spin-off of Everybody Loves Raymond. Kevin James had appeared on Raymond a few times as one of Ray's sportscaster friends, and that led to CBS offering him his own show, but it was a different character.

Later, he appeared on Raymond as his KoQ character in a CBS crossover event, but that was after KoQ had been on the air for a few years.
I've heard KoQ listed as a spinoff countless times before and I never really understood it.

I always put it in the spinoff category but with as asterisk. But I would agree it isn't one in the traditional sense.


Simpsons is a bit different. Although is it really? They took the shots from the Tracy Ullman show and turned them into full length. Is that really that different than taking a secondary character(s) with a scene or two an episode and giving them their own show? George Jefferson was in, what, a scene every other episode?

To me the defining spinoff is kind of like defining quantity of tattoos someone has, at the end of the day it's kind of arbitrary.
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HAHA, Can't wait for this show. I hope it can live up to the standard that it needs to..
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Old 07-29-2014, 01:37 AM   #39
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But wasn't the Tracy Ullman show kinda a late night format show that just had some animated bits as breaks or filler?

Actually you could almost call Friends a spinoff of Mad About You as Lisa Kudrow's character Ursala the ditsy waitress was in Friends as the same character as Phoebe's twin sister. And of course, Joey came from friends.

But generally when I think of a spinoff I think of a series where a main character or plotline is continued in a new show. Like Frasier from Cheers. Not a bit character or a act or a premiere.
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Which is interesting because Cheers' Frasier is so much a different character than Frasier's Frasier. Kind of a total reboot of Kelsey Grammar's character.
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