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Old 02-23-2023, 10:29 AM   #1
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Yoho is clearly a bad faith user who does not engage in meaningful discussion around the posts he makes.

This is different then posters who are annoying, frustrating, pendantic, or otherwise disagreeable. Or posters who have a different perspective from yourself on the world around it.

A typical Yoho post is a tweet from a biased or misleading source, followed by many of us tripping over ourselves to debunk him. Every once in a while his posts have some interesting component to them worthy of discussion but when people attempt to discuss there is no real response. So it’s clear this is trolling or just agenda peddling.

Mods have clearly determined that Yoho does not violate any community standards therefore the community has to police him.

As a group we should no longer participate.

This is exceedingly difficult because Yoho is good at his craft.


The disruption is also two fold. The people responding to Yoho and the people responding to the people responding to Yoho to ignore him.

I propose the following guidance

1) put Yoho on ignore.
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2) if the tweet contains egregious misinformation rather than having six people respond and argue against it one poster could simply post “This tweet likely contains misinformation” and then no one else replies.. This really is only to satisfy the argument that misinformation shouldn’t be allowed to persist unchallenged. An interesting discussion on its own.
3) Do not post -“ just put Yoho on ignore” and instead ignore all posting related to Yoho posts and continue on with regular discussion. Then bump this thread just in case the person who replied is unaware.

Is there anyone who thinks Yoho provides value by them bringing a differing opinion? If so perhaps the above would be unreasonable but then that should be discussed here.

I certainly am guilty of attempting to engage with him too but it’s a work in progress. The challenge is they only need to get one person to drive a thread off a cliff.

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Old 02-23-2023, 10:35 AM   #2
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I thought this discussion was already had in great length about two weeks ago. Is there really any merit to having a separate thread for this?
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I disagree. I think they're fine and I'm actually quite confused as to why people are so triggered by them.

One of the best things about CP is that there are so many varying viewpoints.
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Old 02-23-2023, 10:36 AM   #4
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Really? We're starting entire threads about posters we don't like now?

This is stupid.
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Old 02-23-2023, 10:37 AM   #5
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This is a bad faith thread.
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I thought this discussion was already had in great length about two weeks ago. Is there really any merit to having a separate thread for this.
If you don't think there is merit you don't need to contribute.

I struggle with my decision to put him on ignore.

If you allow dangerous stupid opinion to be yelled out with out confronting them, those yelling them are only emboldened.

Also, this is the internet, I shouldn't take it seriously.
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Old 02-23-2023, 10:38 AM   #7
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I thought this discussion was already had in great length about two weeks ago. Is there really any merit to having a separate thread for this.
Yes,

The derailment of other threads should be contained here. The topic of does Yoho have any value should be contained to one place and not in the American politics, Canadian politics, Alberta politics and for some reason War in the Ukraine.

If someone posted a dedicated thread for us to contain this garbage can you link it and I will just bump that.
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Old 02-23-2023, 10:39 AM   #8
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This is a troll's wet dream.
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Old 02-23-2023, 10:39 AM   #9
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Really? We're starting entire threads about posters we don't like now?

This is stupid.
I actually don’t care that Yoho posts. My concern is how the community responds to him myself included in the stupidist manner possible.
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Old 02-23-2023, 10:40 AM   #10
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man gets an entire thread dedicated to him

he's laughing
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I wouldn’t say his posts bring any value other than to remind us that his viewpoint is representative of a significant portion of the electorate. When I am out hiking and there is a bear in the woods, I like to know where he is and what he is doing.
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man gets an entire thread dedicated to him

he's laughing
I would be laughing too.
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Isn't it just the same 20 or so posters who quote/respond/debunk Yoho?

Could probably just DM each of them with this strategy.
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I'm pretty sure people enjoy it. People like pointing and making fun of other people on the internet.

It won't stop because it's easy and they enjoy it.
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I'll probably get shot here, but I think it might bring to attention how both mods and users can handle users such as this one. He's clearly trolling so I'm not sure why users are expected to handle that, especially when he's quote-tweeted and the ignore button becomes ineffective.

Maybe there is a vBulletin method to prevent seeing quote tweets. Really ramp up that Ignore feature to be a true ignore.

And of course its on users to respect the Ignore.
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Old 02-23-2023, 10:48 AM   #16
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I'll probably get shot here, but I think it might bring to attention how both mods and users can handle users such as this one. He's clearly trolling so I'm not sure why users are expected to handle that, especially when he's quote-tweeted and the ignore button becomes ineffective.

Maybe there is a vBulletin method to prevent seeing quote tweets. Really ramp up that Ignore feature to be a true ignore.

And of course its on users to respect the Ignore.
Just scroll past it. There are numerous CPers whose posts I scroll past, and I do the very same for those who quote those posts.
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I prefer the full flavored internet.
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Nah, the Ignore should be a true ignore. Otherwise it's just there as a placebo.
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Old 02-23-2023, 10:50 AM   #19
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Thread needs a poll!
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Can we add other poster's names to the Poll?

If we can I nominate Bingo, that guy is a paste eating troll.
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