Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by GGG

Is it an accredited degree granting institution or is it like DeVry. Like if we are creating an educated work force while charging them full cost and getting 50 years of tax paying out of them that is about the best immigrant you can get. If it’s closer to human smuggling and having them work illegally to pay back loans from fake degrees then not so much.

It's a legit univeristy.

I did my undergrad there.

The men's soccer team won the USports national championship twice in the last 7 years. The women's soccer team has a national championship.

In terms of academics. The standard undergrad schools science, engineering, business, arts. They have a small MBA program, as well as B.Ed., Nursing, Public Health (as in food safety, inspections etc) and they're working at adding a medical school.

That said, when the foreign students cash cow blows up, I can see things going sideways and the univeristy becoming Dalhousie's Cape Breton campus.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

You guys don't consume beer by boofing?

Then... ha... how... how do you consume beer?

That's how normal people consume it. Just ask Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh

I'm not looking that up. Not falling for that again. The Internet Ads I got were horrific.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Locke

I'm not looking that up. Not falling for that again. The Internet Ads I got were horrific.

What if the eighth time’s a charm though?

[Firebot]

https://globalnews.ca/news/10230624/...action-budget/

Liberals are apparently quite upset with Toronto Mayor Olivia Chow, where her new property tax levy may wake up Toronto folks that voting Liberal and supporting Liberal policies may actually have some negative consequences to them as well in forms of additional taxes and levies. A Liberal MP complaining that the city should look into savings is hilariously ironic.

In the opening days of the budget process, the city’s budget chief warned that if the federal government didn’t commit to addressing the growing issue of shelter costs for refugees and asylum seekers, Toronto would have no choice but to increase taxes by an additional six per cent.

Calling it “the Federal Impacts Levy,” the tax is by design intended to elicit a federal response.

On Tuesday, Etobicoke Centre Liberal MP Yvan Baker responded to the threat angrily, taking a swing at Mayor Olivia Chow and accusing her of failing to find savings elsewhere.

“I’m outraged for a number of reasons. First, I’m outraged because if you have budget problems, the first thing you should do is look for savings,” Baker said. “Olivia Chow didn’t do that.”

City councillors have been quick to counter that the money the city received wasn’t enough at the time, and the needs have only grown since then. Outside a committee room, budget chief Shelley Carroll said the issue has been growing since the city first began engaging with the Trudeau government last spring. Hundreds of people fleeing persecution continue to arrive at Pearson airport, and Carroll pointed out that Toronto doesn’t have the jurisdiction to manage the influx.

“It’s now 5,800 (refugees) and it is growing every week and that is a direct response to federal actions and a federal policy,” Carroll said.

Coun. Gord Perks, the vice-chair of the budget committee, was much less patient in his response to Baker’s critique.

“Whether we’ve hit a nerve or we haven’t hit a nerve, I don’t much care,” he said.

“What I care about is that the federal responsibility take on the responsibility of people arriving in this country seeking refuge so that they have a chance at a decent life,” Perks said.

Unfortunately for Liberals, federal level doesn't control city taxes and levies and cannot name them with virtue signaling names like the Climate action incentive payment and pollution pricing, or air travelers security charge. According to 338Canada, Liberals still have 16 seats leaning Liberal in their stronghold. I am sure they will happily cheer on the Federal Impacts Levy. Should polls dip in Toronto the federal will suddenly throw the city a bone as they did the Maritimes, and I expect they will eventually send money the city's way to save face.

Yvan Baker's riding is one of the Toronto ridings leaning Conservative and expected to change, this surely won't help him

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Firebot

https://globalnews.ca/news/10230624/...action-budget/

Liberals are apparently quite upset with Toronto Mayor Olivia Chow, where her new property tax levy may wake up Toronto folks that voting Liberal and supporting Liberal policies may actually have some negative consequences to them as well in forms of additional taxes and levies. A Liberal MP complaining that the city should look into savings is hilariously ironic.

Unfortunately for Liberals, federal level doesn't control city taxes and levies and cannot name them with virtue signaling names like the Climate action incentive payment and pollution pricing, or air travelers security charge. According to 338Canada, Liberals still have 16 seats leaning Liberal in their stronghold. I am sure they will happily cheer on the Federal Impacts Levy. Should polls dip in Toronto the federal will suddenly throw the city a bone as they did the Maritimes, and I expect they will eventually send money the city's way to save face.

Dude, you need to back away from your partisan circles for a bit if you think a perfectly descriptive name like that is somehow virtue signalling. I don't know how you could come to that conclusion. Which virtue is being signaled? It's a security fee. For air travelers. Like it says...

[Firebot]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Dude, you need to back away from your partisan circles for a bit if you think a perfectly descriptive name like that is somehow virtue signalling. I don't know how you could come to that conclusion. Which virtue is being signaled? It's a security fee. For air travelers. Like it says...

And there is nothing wrong with the city of Toronto calling the levy the Federal Impacts Levy as it's a perfectly descriptive name

This means you agree with the city of Toronto's stance?

Labelling taxes with fancy names to make them more palatable to the public isn't a partisan take but a political take and a practice as old as time, not reserved to Liberals. Liberals just happen to be the current federal government and the ones mentioned are under their mandate and are open to current criticism. You can dig up 9 year old + virtue signaling Harper CPC taxes to your hearts content if you want and makes you feel better and deflect that Liberals are upset about Toronto's new levy label.

[Fuzz]

Obviously the "Federal Impacts Levy" was meant to get the government attention, and it seems to have done just that. No, I don't have a problem with it(the demand) if one level of government is downloading costs to another without funding it. This seems like it falls under a federal responsibility, so they should step up or alter immigration policies.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Obviously the "Federal Impacts Levy" was meant to get the government attention, and it seems to have done just that. No, I don't have a problem with it(the demand) if one level of government is downloading costs to another without funding it. This seems like it falls under a federal responsibility, so they should step up or alter immigration policies.

The name is stupid. When Smith does this we call it out.

[flamesfever]

When you ask yourself the question, "How could the Liberals be so stupid by allowing our immigration to get so out of control?"

IMO the answer is:

1. Immigrants tend to vote Liberal e.g. the 905

2. Maintaining the wealth effect. The demand for housing by immigrants keeps the house prices from collapsing, and high enough to make the owners feel wealthy.

However, their stupidity is backfiring on them because of the housing crisis, the affordability factor related to rising interest rates, and the complete mess in trying to adequately look after the excessive number of people.

The Conservatives and NDP are hesitant to bring this up, as they are afraid if they do, they will be judged to be racist, and will lose the immigrant vote.

just the way I see things

[Azure]

I keep saying it. We are not a serious country. And we're going to pay for have a dog & pony show in leadership positions for so long.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1747496131490455568

[Harry Lime]

The GDP has barely moved, but with unprecedented population growth. Basically no planning at all beyond "higher population would solve the Boomer issue".

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

The GDP has barely moved, but with unprecedented population growth. Basically no planning at all beyond "higher population would solve the Boomer issue".

So basically we've been in a recession on a per capita GDP basis for a long while now? Just masked by massive immigration to avoid "technical" recession definitions?

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Azure

I keep saying it. We are not a serious country. And we're going to pay for have a dog & pony show in leadership positions for so long.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1747496131490455568

lol. I'm sure there are countries way better than Canada the past 5 years but the US isn't one of them.

It's prob in your mind living in a crappy city like Winnipeg... lol

[Manhattanboy]

Don’t know where to post this.

You might not agree with what Jordan Peterson says but he makes good arguments in support of his right to free speech.

This is what happens after years of woke liberal rule.

https://apple.news/AoF7V0ErZTrKPirEEdmhT1g

[opendoor]

LOL, poor grifter has to abide by the rules and the training requirements of a professional body he voluntarily joined.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Don’t know where to post this.

You might not agree with what Jordan Peterson says but he makes good arguments in support of his right to free speech.

This is what happens after years of woke liberal rule.

https://apple.news/AoF7V0ErZTrKPirEEdmhT1g

How has the “woke liberal rule” infringed on your ability to exercise free speech?

[opendoor]

And really, a guy who has published this probably deserves to have his free speech curtailed:

“I dreamed I saw my maternal grandmother sitting by the bank of a swimming pool, that was also a river. In real life, she had been a victim of Alzheimer’s disease, and had regressed, before her death, to a semi-conscious state. In the dream, as well, she had lost her capacity for self-control. Her genital region was exposed, dimly; it had the appearance of a thick mat of hair. She was stroking herself, absent-mindedly. She walked over to me, with a handful of pubic hair, compacted into something resembling a large artist’s paint-brush. She pushed this at my face. I raised my arm, several times, to deflect her hand; finally, unwilling to hurt her, or interfere with her any farther, I let her have her way. She stroked my face with the brush, gently, and said, like a child, “isn’t it soft?” I looked at her ruined face and said, “yes, Grandma, it’s soft.”― Jordan B. Peterson, Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief

[PepsiFree]

Why is it that every time someone says “You may not like what ____ says but he brings about a good point about…” the ____ is somehow always the biggest, dumbest clown imaginable and the … is the intellectual equivalent to baby pablum for bad boys with tummy troubles?

“Woke liberal rule” … jesus, imagine living inside that head every day.

[Roughneck]

Years of woke liberal rule mean:

A provincial regulatory organization of industry peers deems it unprofessional and a violation of their ethics standards for you to identify as a member of their industry and belittle a client on a podcast and directs you to take professionalism training?


Quite the dystopia. What's next in this slippery slope? The Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada will require anesthesiologists who always 'take a hit for themselves' undergo substance abuse counseling before they can get back in the OR? Is this the kind of regulatory overreach we want from our professional organizations?!

[Manhattanboy]

Ok so none of you troubled by this. The specific circumstances. Ok.