If I’m him, there’s more reason not to sign than sign. Extra couple years of NHL money vs earning Harvard degree (better off financially long term probably by finishing). He could go in summers I guess.
And why hurry to join an organization that is jammed on the right D depth chart with a coach/GM that is obsessed with playing guys on their “right” sides.
I can’t recall, but when Johnny first signed and played to burn a year, didn’t that kind of hurt him in this latest contract? Lack of arb rights and not eligible for offer sheet or something?
Harvard are losing 7 seniors, the team is going to suck. Fox will sign.
The seniors they're losing weren't that good (there's likely a reason the goalie was the captain). Their highest-scoring senior this season was 10th overall on the team. Only one senior had more than 10 points this season.
The seniors who graduated last year were much better than this year's senior class. That's why the team went from being a Frozen Four team last year to missing the tournament completely this year.
The biggest loss that Harvard could be facing is Ryan Donato, if he decides to sign with the Bruins. If he decides to return for his senior year, I could see that swaying Fox's decision to return. Also, if both Donato and Fox return next season, Harvard will probably be a better team than they were this season.
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Harvard are losing 7 seniors, the team is going to suck. Fox will sign.
Out of those 7 seniors really only Sherman (Harvard's top shutdown d-man) and Madsen (starting goalie) are significant loses. The rest mostly are bottom 6 forwards and depth defence.
The more significant loss is their top scorer Donato who could still come back next year but sounds like there is a good chance he joins the Bruins soon.
I was a bit dejected seeing Conroy presenting Mark Wheler with a jersey last night and not waiting for Fox with a private jet.
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Yes. He had no arbitration rights and he couldn't sign an offer sheet which may have hurt his earning potential a bit. Arguably he might have been able to get slightly more because a potential offer sheet might have driven the Flames to close on a deal sooner than later. But still by burning a year he earned $6.75 mil in his 3rd pro year instead of $1.85 mil because of an ELC.
What really hurt Gaudreau more was timing. If he didn't burn his first year he could have had his contract negotiations after the McDavid extension and maybe Draisaitl was announced and using that as a benchmark.
Johnny could have simply signed a 1 year contract if he wanted to have offer sheet rights at the time he negotiated a long term deal.
Players have to sign an entry-level deal that's commensurate with their CBA signing age. Gaudreau was too young to get a 1 year ELC. The 3 year deal he signed was his only option.
The Flames should trade away 2 of Hamilton / Hamonic / Brodie / Stone before even thinking of adding yet another defenceman. There are still Andersson, Kylington, and Wotherspoon to deal with (maybe even Valamaki).
The Flames should trade away 2 of Hamilton / Hamonic / Brodie / Stone before even thinking of adding yet another defenceman. There are still Andersson, Kylington, and Wotherspoon to deal with (maybe even Valamaki).
Dude, Wotherspoon? Really?
I'll let you in on a secret; (whisper voice) he's not making the team.
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"3. Sign a 3 year NHL ELC that starts in the 18/19 (19/20) season. He won't be eligible to play in NHL regular season games or NHL playoff games. His contract won't start until 18/19 (19/20), so all 3 years remain until July 1st. He can play AHL games in Stockton for the rest of the season by joining them on an ATO."
Wouldn't this make him protected in the expansion draft?
I doubt Fox would do it, but still.
I'll be eager to see if this proves the organization is smart and business savvy or if its a three ring circus shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic based on this one transaction and one transaction alone.
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Why would they refuse to sign him to a 1-year deal?
Why would any team that identifies a player as a 23 year old core player want to sign a player to a 1 year deal when the player doesn't have arbitration rights or ability to sign offer sheets?
So that the following year he has arbitration rights, can sign offer sheets, and barring injury and/or an off season has better leverage to get even more money?
They had Gaudreau with no leverage except to sit out, which he clearly did not want to do. Why would the Flames ever settle for a 1 year deal? They may have been open to a short term deal, but likely would have wanted at least 2 years.
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If the Flames wait before signing Fox, will it keep them from having to protect Fox in the Seattle expansion draft?
The only way he won't be exempt from a 2020 expansion draft (using the same rules that were in place for Vegas) is if he signs an NHL contract that takes effect this season AND he plays games in the NHL this season.
For example, Jon Gillies signed with the Flames in 2015 and burned the first year of his contract, but he didn't play any pro games that season. He was exempt from the expansion draft.
On the other hand, Chicago signed Kyle Baun in 2015, burning the first year of his contract, and he did play 3 games for the Hawks that season. He was not exempt from the expansion draft.
If Fox signs a contract that takes effect next season and goes to play the rest of the season in Stockton, he would also be exempt in the expansion draft because those games played this season would be on an AHL ATO and not an NHL contract.
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