02-09-2018, 09:44 PM
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Rangers 4 Flames 3
Rangers 4 Flames 3
- Brutal first period
- Carried the play from there
- Disallowed goal
- Own Goal
- Rough night!
Sorry for the brevity, my PVR botched and I missed the middle of the game.
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02-09-2018, 09:53 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Regina
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Another frustrating loss that I will be pointing to later this year when we barely squeak into the playoffs.
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02-09-2018, 10:57 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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So according to advanced stats Bennett was the 2nd most effective Flames player tonight? Certainly doesn’t fit the narrative in the post game thread that he was terrible.
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02-09-2018, 11:07 PM
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#4
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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The AS definitely does not fit the PGT narrative with regard to Bennett.
I missed the game, so I don't know which is correct.
Was it a bit of both?
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02-09-2018, 11:21 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Originally Posted by jlh2640
Another frustrating loss that I will be pointing to later this year when we barely squeak into the playoffs.
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At that time, why not let it go and enjoy some playoff hockey instead?
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02-09-2018, 11:27 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 420since1974
The AS definitely does not fit the PGT narrative with regard to Bennett.
I missed the game, so I don't know which is correct.
Was it a bit of both?
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He was fine but took a bad penalty in the 3rd that resulted in the winning goal. It was a marginal call in the offensive zone like the one a few games back where the goaltender stuck out his rear while Bennett was skating behind the net to draw a goaltender interference penalty but the common denominator is that he can’t be putting himself in situations where he’s giving officials the opportunity to make a judgement call. The reality is that Gio took another poorly timed minor right after for slashing (also marginal call) but fans are going to focus on the player that many of them are frustrated with.
Overall they were just not on their game tonight as a team and we all know they weren’t going to go undefeated on the road for the rest of the season so they just have to rest up tomorrow and get focused to be ready to face an Islanders team that will make them pay for a sloppy effort like tonight.
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02-09-2018, 11:29 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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It was frustrating to watch for sure but the Rangers were embarrassed in their last game and you can tell they were pushing back after it.
2nd night of back to backs for us as well and we pushed hard at the end and ran into a legendary goalie playing hot.
Some of the comments in the PGT (as usual) are cryptic and outrageous.
The team is 10-3-4 in their last 17 games. 15-6-5 on the road all season.
We're going to lose a few before the year is over. And the over-reactions after each loss just seem more and more pronounced.
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02-09-2018, 11:56 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
He was fine but took a bad penalty in the 3rd that resulted in the winning goal. It was a marginal call in the offensive zone like the one a few games back where the goaltender stuck out his rear while Bennett was skating behind the net to draw a goaltender interference penalty but the common denominator is that he can’t be putting himself in situations where he’s giving officials the opportunity to make a judgement call. The reality is that Gio took another poorly timed minor right after for slashing (also marginal call) but fans are going to focus on the player that many of them are frustrated with.
Overall they were just not on their game tonight as a team and we all know they weren’t going to go undefeated on the road for the rest of the season so they just have to rest up tomorrow and get focused to be ready to face an Islanders team that will make them pay for a sloppy effort like tonight.
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while both penalties were marginal calls, Gio took his trying to prevent Grabner on a clear breakaway on Smith and took it virtually on top of the crease when Grabner was making his move.
Bennett took his down low in the offense zone after losing a puck battle and the NYR was skating away from him.
One was needless by any given metric and the other was an attempt to prevent a shot on net.
As mentioned a number of times, this isn't the first time Bennett has been tabbed with frustratingly needless penalties... i believe posters' frustrations boiled over because of the recent spate of bad decisions by Bennett and the fact that his penalty lead to the game winning goal...
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02-10-2018, 07:20 AM
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Franchise Player
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It was a game that could certainly have gone either way, and you can't expect to win all of your games that fall into that category.
People quickly forget that the Flames (to some extent) likely stole the game before in Chicago.
It's simply unrealistic to expect the Flames to win every game that falls into the "close" category.
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02-10-2018, 08:56 AM
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Franchise Player
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It is interesting that the Flames on the 2nd night of back to backs played only 2 lines.
There were 6 forwards with less than 10 minutes of ev strength ice time.
The impact of not having Brouwer being available to play top-9 minutes might be exposing the Flames depth problem. Or it might be panic coaching.
Gilmour in his first NHL game... with the Rangers now 3 pts out of a wild card spot gets over 17 minutes and some PK/PP time. That is a bigger single game role than any of the Flames defensemen making less than 3.5 M / yr have had this whole season.
Did Keenan pass a law that the Flames not trust anyone with less than 100 NHL games?
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02-10-2018, 09:31 AM
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#12
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by ricardodw
It is interesting that the Flames on the 2nd night of back to backs played only 2 lines.
There were 6 forwards with less than 10 minutes of ev strength ice time.
The impact of not having Brouwer being available to play top-9 minutes might be exposing the Flames depth problem. Or it might be panic coaching.
Gilmour in his first NHL game... with the Rangers now 3 pts out of a wild card spot gets over 17 minutes and some PK/PP time. That is a bigger single game role than any of the Flames defensemen making less than 3.5 M / yr have had this whole season.
Did Keenan pass a law that the Flames not trust anyone with less than 100 NHL games?
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"GG always rolls four lines no matter what - terrible coaching".
"GG shortened his bench - panic coaching".
10 minutes is about what the fourth always gets. And it sounds like the third line didn't deserve more. Plus, they were trailing by one with 3-4 minutes left and the net was empty for two. That's 1-2 line time. It's situational. In a close loss, the best lines get more time because the bottom six are not as good a bet to score.
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02-10-2018, 09:39 AM
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#13
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary
As mentioned a number of times, this isn't the first time Bennett has been tabbed with frustratingly needless penalties... i believe posters' frustrations boiled over because of the recent spate of bad decisions by Bennett and the fact that his penalty lead to the game winning goal...
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There are three players on this team that have a penchant for bad penalties and that's Hamilton, Bennett, and Backlund so I'm not disagreeing with anyone about that but the team could still kill a penalty. As bad as the timing was it's not like he was the sole reason they lost like Frolik was against the Golden Knights. How many point blank scoring opportunities in the last minute of the game did players completely miss the net? At least three or four by my count and that's one of the biggest issues with this team is that they don't even get shots on net with quality scoring opportunities. This team has a lot of flaws right now and that's what is preventing them from a solid hold on a playoff spot not a badly timed penalty.
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02-10-2018, 09:56 AM
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#14
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
So according to advanced stats Bennett was the 2nd most effective Flames player tonight? Certainly doesn’t fit the narrative in the post game thread that he was terrible.
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Pretty non descript tonight if you dig in.
He's 61% with a 11-7 split on shot attempts, but his scoring chance split was 1-1. Not a lot happened when he was on the ice.
He did stand out from his linemates who had 10-9 / 1-2 and 8-9 / 1-2 splits.
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