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Old 02-22-2018, 02:37 PM   #1
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Icon35 Islanders re-sign Josh Bailey (6 yrs, $5 mil AAV)

http://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/st...87739478843392
NYI and pending UFA forward Josh Bailey are closing in on a multi-year contract extension. Still finalizing some details but likely to be an AAV of around $5M with a term of five or six years. #TradeCentre

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https://www.nhl.com/islanders/news/b...al/c-296242036

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Old 02-22-2018, 02:42 PM   #2
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That's a big contract for a guy his age, coming off his best two years. But it contextualizes Backlund's deal.
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Old 02-22-2018, 02:49 PM   #3
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I wonder if JT will be next
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Old 02-22-2018, 02:50 PM   #4
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That's a big contract for a guy his age, coming off his best two years. But it contextualizes Backlund's deal.
I'd be more worried that he's only been pretty average when not playing with Tavares.

Tavares stays and the contract is probably fine, if Tavares goes and he goes back to 35-40 points then it's not very pretty.
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Old 02-22-2018, 02:51 PM   #5
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That's a big contract for a guy his age, coming off his best two years. But it contextualizes Backlund's deal.
I can see what you're saying, but his offensive explosion this year has me thinking this is actually a really solid deal. Bailey has been one of those guys that has aged really well. No real reason to believe he will get worse soon.
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Old 02-22-2018, 02:55 PM   #6
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Talk about coming up big in a contract year.
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Old 02-22-2018, 02:56 PM   #7
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I feel like this might be a Moulson-esque deal in a few years.
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Old 02-22-2018, 03:01 PM   #8
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Brutal. Hope they re-sign Tavares or else Bailey will be exposed as a fringe second line player. Broke out as a 28 year old playing on a line with one of the best centers in the game and when separated he's a 10-20-30 player, it's clearly the center doing the work.

Might as well sign Cheechoo to a multi-year 5M+ contract.
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Old 02-22-2018, 03:03 PM   #9
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Just remember Matt Moulson was a point-per-game player with Tavares too one year. I'm sure Buffalo doesn't regret signing him to a 5M, 5 year contract to play in the AHL.
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Moulson/Lee/Bailey/Okposo have all shown they are not capable top liners without Tavares, arguably only Okposo has shown to be maybe a top 6 player. Throw in him playing with projects like Kulemin and Boyes, and the only legit player they have brought in to play with Tavares is Vanek. And he looked lost without Tavares the very next season.

Vanek - bought out after signing with Minnesota
Boyes - bought out after signing with Florida
Moulson - cleared waivers, likely to be bought out
Okposo - 6M for a player who might not reach 50 points is going to look like an albatross contract in 7 years when he's old.

I guess moral of the story is, for all that is holy do not sign anyone who Tavares plays with. Poor sap of a team that is going to get stuck with a 30 point player in Bailey after paying him for point-per-game production or a 15 goal scorer in Lee after Tavares carries him to the Rocket Richard.

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Now official.

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Old 02-23-2018, 10:13 AM   #11
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I mean, if Tavares leaves, they have a rookie who’s getting a point per game on their second line who could keep him going. And they would also be paying their players league minimum if Tavares could help guys that much
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Old 02-23-2018, 10:26 AM   #12
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This is brilliant because Bailey and Backlund's contracts are very comparable and the comparison shows that Treliving did very well.



As you can see (courtesy of Rob Vollman):

Backlund plays against slightly more difficult competition.

Backlund starts in the defensive zone approximately 8% more often.

Backlund gets dramatically better results:
Backlund has a CF% of 55.34%
Bailey has a CF% of 46.28%.

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Old 02-23-2018, 10:46 AM   #13
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This is brilliant because Bailey and Backlund's contracts are very comparable and the comparison shows that Treliving did very well.



As you can see (courtesy of Rob Vollman):

Backlund plays against slightly more difficult competition.

Backlund starts in the defensive zone approximately 8% more often.

Backlund gets dramatically better results:
Backlund has a CF% of 55.34%
Bailey has a CF% of 46.28%.
Most importantly, Backlund is a centre.
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Old 02-23-2018, 11:05 AM   #14
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Very true.

In the 600 minutes Josh Bailey has played with John Tavares, he is a 47.85% CF% player.

In the 200 minutes Josh Bailey has played without John Tavares, he is a 41.85% CF% player.

I think the Islanders may end up paying for John Tavares one point four times. One time when they sign him to a 12 million dollar contract. Point four times when they signed Josh Bailey to this contract.
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