Should/Will the Flames keep Ward

[Bunk]

Originally Posted by keenan87

I just heard the argument on fan960 and its silly. They all said Ward should be the head coach and the Flames have never paid for big-time coaches in the NHL and they definitely won't now due to COVID and economic recession because guys like Gallant and Laviolette depend big money.

I don't get it. Aren't all NHL teams affected by this virus? Who even needs coaches. Most of all, due to the economic downturn, they will probably demand less money. I am sure none of them are willing to sit out for a year because the economy isn't moving anywhere fast.

In other words, yes the Flames owners don't have a lot of money but that also means that salaries are probably going to decrease and coaches will take less money to stay in the league and be relevant.

Agree - spend to the cap, but go budget on the coach is so stupid. You spend money to make money.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

They absolutely should not, but they probably will because it is what they do. They constantly settle for mediocrity and are unwilling to pay for a proper head coach.

This. Coupled with the fact that none of the big name coaches available are touching the Calgary situation with a 100 foot pole.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

This. Coupled with the fact that none of the big name coaches available are touching the Calgary situation with a 100 foot pole.

I keep reading this type of opinion and can't help but think its a total woe is me level of belief.

Why in the 9 hells wouldn't a coach want to come here. Even with the idea of trading Gaudreau there's so many good pieces here. Its still a ypung team with a ton of talent. With the right guidance can really turn into a great deep team.

I get losing sucks and its fine to be bummed or upset but this entire narrative that nothing is good here and its a black hole where light cannot exist isnt very useful.

[Jiri Hrdina]

^Because they are a coach killing group. High quality coaches don't want to come somewhere that is cycling through new coaches each year.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

^Because they are a coach killing group. High quality coaches don't want to come somewhere that is cycling through new coaches each year.

The group is going to change significantly

[kurwamac]

****that's a little b i t ch way to ask a poll question, clown****

[chummer]

Originally Posted by kurwamac

****that's a little b i t ch way to ask a poll question, clown****

What??

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

^Because they are a coach killing group. High quality coaches don't want to come somewhere that is cycling through new coaches each year.

I don’t know. A good coach with a pedigree should know they bring something better than the sequence of GG / Peters / Ward, and expect that they would have the ability to command respect.

[868904]

I like Ward, I thought he did alright in the playoffs, other than the goalie change, BUT, i'm sick of the rookie coaches.

You need a veteran coach with a young mentally fragile team.

PAY UP PLEASE.

[Inglewood Jack]

The Flames are so good at killing head coaches that they are able to permanently murder a HC’s chance of ever working at the same level again? Well if they hire a Laviolette or equivalent, and the same thing happens to that guy after, I won’t even be that mad, more impressed than anything else.

[Canada 02]

Sutter, Keenan, Brent Sutter, Hartley and Peters were well paid coaches. Burke, obviously not a coach, but hockey ops, must have had a big ticket as well. I think the owners are willing to pay for pricey hockey people. Just need to find the right one who wants to come here as well

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Inglewood Jack

The Flames are so good at killing head coaches that they are able to permanently murder a HC’s chance of ever working at the same level again? Well if they hire a Laviolette or equivalent, and the same thing happens to that guy after, I won’t even be that mad, more impressed than anything else.

Look at who they hire. These aren’t guys that are getting looks anywhere else. If it is a name coach it is a guy that is getting his last kick at the can like Keenan or Hartley. The guys with less experience like Playfair, Gulutzan, Peters, Ward are all meh and have had little no no success anywhere else.

Brent might be the only guy that should maybe get another look. He got the Flames to 94pts with PTO Brendan Morrison as the number 1 C. 3 90+ point seasons with a very mediocre roster lead by players 33-35 years old

[lazypucker]

Will Darryl be willing to un-retire and get back into coaching? I would like to see him if the Flames can't hire a big name coach like Laviolette or Gallant...

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

^Because they are a coach killing group. High quality coaches don't want to come somewhere that is cycling through new coaches each year.

I don't think that's accurate. Have we actually bought in a high caliber coach, where he was considered great within the recent years of hiring, and he's been ruined after being with the Flames?

I definitely think the roster is the primary problem, but good coaches are able to make chicken ####, into chicken stew. Darryl Sutter is the perfect example of that. Both with the Flames, and the Kings.

Flames actually need to hire someone who has a strong resume, and is considered a hot commodity this off season, before we can really consider if the core itself is coach killers. Granted with the changes that should happen, it would be moot since the core may change a fair amount.

[868904]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

Sutter, Keenan, Brent Sutter, Hartley and Peters were well paid coaches. Burke, obviously not a coach, but hockey ops, must have had a big ticket as well. I think the owners are willing to pay for pricey hockey people. Just need to find the right one who wants to come here as well

I think Darryl said he'd coach again if it was one of the Alberta teams.

Edwards should just override Treliving in this.

I've heard the "this isn't a Darryl type of team". Well, this team needs to change. It doesn't matter who coaches this team, it needs to get bigger and faster, it needs to become more of a Darryl type team because that's the type of team that wins in the playoffs.

[Mr.Coffee]

Bringing in a new unproven guy would immediately lose Treliving whatever faith the fan base has left in him.

Stop trying to be the smartest guy in the room. This isn’t this hard. Jesus.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by Inglewood Jack

The Flames are so good at killing head coaches that they are able to permanently murder a HC’s chance of ever working at the same level again? Well if they hire a Laviolette or equivalent, and the same thing happens to that guy after, I won’t even be that mad, more impressed than anything else.

I would not classify the people that the Flames have hired as coaches as NHL coaches. Huge difference.

Why with a very young team was GG brought in? Ridiculous. Lost a couple of years of development of those young players.

[dissentowner]

This team should definitely move on from Ward as head coach which is exactly why they probably won't. It is hard to believe they will get it right after decades of getting it wrong.

[Azhouse]

I read the question wrong. I picked 3 but meant to pick 1

[kurwamac]

I'm still here