10-16-2019, 10:43 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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Are the Flames moving on from Stockton?
https://www.recordnet.com/sports/201...eam-is-staying
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Local hockey fans say they want the Stockton Heat to put a good team on the ice, and they want to enjoy a celebration of 15 years of pro hockey in Stockton.
And they say they want an answer to a question close to their hearts: Will the Heat still be in Stockton after this season, or will they be moving on?
The deadline for that decision has officially passed, and neither the City of Stockton nor the team’s management has said anything that really hints at the answer.
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When the Heat came to town in 2015, they agreed to a five-year contract with the city, with a five-year option belonging to the team. According to Heat CEO Brian Petrovek, the franchise must inform city officials whether the option is being enacted before the start of the last season on the original contract.
That was Oct. 4. Petrovek has declined to be interviewed on the subject by The Record, but in comments forwarded by the Heat on Friday said “the team has fulfilled its contractual obligation of giving notice.”
Connie Cochran, the City of Stockton’s spokeswoman, said that there was nothing to report, but the city is in communication with the Heat.
If the team made its decision, one way or another, it seems an answer should be forthcoming. One possibility is that the sides decided to extend the deadline and keep negotiating, which is not uncommon in these cases. The Heat has made it clear it wants some arena improvements.
With no official statements from the franchise or the city, rumors filled the offseason. Some fans feared a move was almost certain because of the Calgary Flames’ history with their AHL franchise. Stockton is the fifth different home for Calgary’s AHL team since 2005.
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John Hoven | The Mayor
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If the Heat are leaving Stockton (sure sounds like it), two best alternatives in CA were mentioned here during original reporting cycle http://mayorsmanor.com/2014/12/sourc...ahl-west-move/
CA remains best AHL option due to travel costs. Outside CA, Boise and Salt Lake likely provide best built in fanbases.
John Hoven | The Mayor
@mayorNHL
Update: Hearing there is a dark horse in the race... Colorado Springs.
Stay tuned #Flames fans (and AHL West fans)
John Hoven's article mentioned Fresno or Sacramento as Northern California options.
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10-16-2019, 10:47 AM
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They should've kept Scorch!
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10-16-2019, 10:52 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Wish they were the one's moving to Palm Springs.. 
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10-16-2019, 10:54 AM
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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You'd think if they had reached an agreement they would have loudly announced it by now. The silence is pretty telling, imo.
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10-16-2019, 11:03 AM
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Sacramento would be fine. Fresno kind of sucks. But Stockton is hot garbage so either would be better.
Salt Lake and Colorado Springs seem a lot less convenient.
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Why would Salt Lake be inconvenient? And why would Sacramento be better? Salt Lake is a quick direct flight, big city with money to spend, and has a hockey history.
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10-16-2019, 11:04 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Salt Lake City is the closest from a direct flight perspective.
Think it's like a 2 1/2 hour flight and lots of daily direct options.
Salt Lake Golden Eagles returning and playing in the Utah Jazz arena could probably work, or more likely in the Maverik Center where the Utah Grizzlies play.
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10-16-2019, 11:05 AM
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I guess the question, is WHY?
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10-16-2019, 11:07 AM
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Bring the Heat to Saskatoon.
The WHL team here doesn't draw and the arena is outside the city but I'd make the trip. Not sure anyone else would, but hey.
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10-16-2019, 11:09 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
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How many farm team relocations under Ken King now? Seems excessive and would be good to have some stability. Maybe it doesn't matter and other teams constantly move as well. Just seems really high for the Flames.
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10-16-2019, 11:13 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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I'd be down for Sacramento. Or hell, Portland, Oregon if that was an option!
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10-16-2019, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
Why would Salt Lake be inconvenient? And why would Sacramento be better? Salt Lake is a quick direct flight, big city with money to spend, and has a hockey history.
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More so for travel for the team, the California teams have it pretty good. Not inconvenient from the perspective of callups.
Salt Lake is otherwise good. But if the goal is to stay in California, Sacramento is the call. Pretty close geographically and pretty much the same time to get to the Bay Area.
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10-16-2019, 11:19 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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The Heat should move to Del Boca Vista.
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10-16-2019, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by pepper24
How many farm team relocations under Ken King now? Seems excessive and would be good to have some stability. Maybe it doesn't matter and other teams constantly move as well. Just seems really high for the Flames.
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The Penguins have had the same affiliate since the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins were created in 1999. The Capitals have had the same affiliate since 2005, the Hershey Bears.
But Edmonton has gone Hamilton to Toronto, to Edmonton, to Hamilton, to Iowa, to Springfield, to Oklahoma and finally Bakersfield in about that same time frame. So I guess we're not the worst.
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10-16-2019, 11:27 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
The Penguins have had the same affiliate since the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins were created in 1999. The Capitals have had the same affiliate since 2005, the Hershey Bears.
But Edmonton has gone Hamilton to Toronto, to Edmonton, to Hamilton, to Iowa, to Springfield, to Oklahoma and finally Bakersfield in about that same time frame. So I guess we're not the worst.
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Thanks - 4 cups between the Pens and Caps in that time. 4 first overall picks from the Oilers. Yikes!
Let's find a good location and stick with it!
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10-16-2019, 11:31 AM
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St. Louis won a cup and I think they shared an affiliate for a year, so I don't know if having a stable affiliate is much of an influence
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10-16-2019, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by pepper24
How many farm team relocations under Ken King now? Seems excessive and would be good to have some stability. Maybe it doesn't matter and other teams constantly move as well. Just seems really high for the Flames.
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Teams move AHL affiliates all the time. When I was growing up, the Canadian teams all had their affiliates in the Maritimes.
Fredericton Canadiens
St John Flames
St John's Maple Leafs
PEI Senators
Cape Breton Oilers
Simpler times...
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10-16-2019, 11:38 AM
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I'm not sure how much "stability" matters when most of the players that will have impact will spend only a season or two in the AHL anyways.
However, the Blues have had Peoria (2005-2013), Chicago (2013-2017) and most recently San Antonio (2018-), so it's not like they have changed a ton.
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10-16-2019, 11:40 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Stockton is a hole. A little bit danger.
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10-16-2019, 11:41 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by dustygoon
Stockton is a hole. A little bit danger.
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Yeah when the players hear gunshots from their apartments it may be time to relocate.
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