Flames and bad face offs are basically a club identity at this point. I feel I’ve only ever known a bad face off team that has occasionally had good faceoff specialists (and by specialists I mean Stephane Yelle).
I’m sure somebody knows the stats, how many years since Joel Otto has been at the club have the Flames been a positive faceoff team? It seems like a perennial issue.
Oh I dunno if the 2018/2019 season is too far back, but the Calgary Flames were the THIRD BEST face off team in THE LEAGUE.
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Awesome result! This team can definitely take care of business against lower echelon teams. Now if we could just see more of this level of effort & skill against better teams...
Does anyone have a better view of the elbow from Lindholm? I feel like I can’t properly judge the whole sequence when the only angle we saw on Sportsnet was from 150 feet away. Lindholm is taking an awful lot of the blame in other corners of the internet, which seems unfair considering I can’t even be sure if he even really got Helm at all.
I started watching at the center ice faceoff when Helm dumped Lindholm.
Was surprised the broadcast crew pays attention starting mid engagement, as it was right off the draw at centre
There’s this video from Sportsnet that shows everything starting with the stuff at centre ice, but in that whole video you don’t really get a clear view of the elbow. The more overhead view makes it look like Lindholm might not get Helm in the head at all, but it’s just so damn far away.
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I don't really think it matters whether Lindholm connected on the elbow. The attempt was pretty blatant and I think he's deservedly receiving most of the blame. If a Red Wing tried to elbow one of our guys like that, I'd want to give the guy a solid slash too.
Hope Lindholm is ok though. He's been so good for us and is key to our offense.
I don't really think it matters whether Lindholm connected on the elbow. The attempt was pretty blatant and I think he's deservedly receiving most of the blame. If a Red Wing tried to elbow one of our guys like that, I'd want to give the guy a solid slash too.
Hope Lindholm is ok though. He's been so good for us and is key to our offense.
The slew foot on the faceoff is where it all started...the ref could have done his job but the Flames were up 4-1 at the time so why make a call and prevent the incident
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I don't really think it matters whether Lindholm connected on the elbow.
I think it matters when I can’t get a good read on either his intent or the result of his actions from the angles I’ve seen. I’m not saying he doesn’t share blame, I’m only saying I can’t tell how egregious it was while looking down from the rafters of the dome.
That was a Kessler-level flop from Helm followed by a McSorely-level two-hander to the back of Lindholm’s knee... after Helm started the whole thing with a slew foot on Lindholm off the faceoff.
He’s lucky Looch wasn’t on the ice during that whole sequence.
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Let's raise some money to cybernetically enhance Zetterberg so he can play for us for the next 25 years. I'm good for $20.
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Best I can do is $3.50
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If that was actually possible I would spend a dangerous amount of my money on it lol
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I moved to Calgary 3 years ago and every time Detroit comes to town my wife and I go to see them. They've lost every time ... here's hoping they break that streak! LGRW!
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That's what we all wanted, right? When the Red Wings were losing in the first round year after year?
When it Ain’t Broke
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Holy line shuffle, Blashill...
He broke up the MLB line
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Blashill is using HFBoard logic. The first line is the only one scoring, so it must be broken up.
WHile we're at it, let's break up the only other line that had any chemistry, the 4th line. Brilliant.
How about we start benching guys who screw up, and play some of the kids like Svech. Not gonna hurt Hirose to play in the A for a while.
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The Blender Strikes Back
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"Spreading the offense" seems rather pointless when the result is clearly "almost no offense".
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“You know how are top line is doing great with amazing chemistry? I have an even better idea, let’s split them up.” - Blashill
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Why the #### isn’t Blas playing the BLM line? Am i missing something?
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It is the Mike Babcock school of "I am smarter than everyone else even if it does not work"
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Stymied Looks to me like the blender has stifled all the lines. This is the least exciting game I’ve watched them play this year, win or lose.
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yeah idk, this is another reason why I don't like Blashill. Break up the first line to what? Make the weaker lines stroner? So we took away our strength to strengthen really weak points to where we have no strengths on the team and lots of weak points? Idk...
The first line was working, the fourth line was working... A trade for a quality player was needed to make the second line legit or add depth with a stronger 3rd line. A shuffle between the two middle lines could of been a better idea imo, No matter where AA played. Don't really love Glendening getting 2nd line minutes for most the season. Thought the Lines should of been Hirose-Nielson*-AA, Erne*- Filuppula - Glendening. The * are for guys I realize have been injured or are for tonight's game.
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Of course, I ***** and ***** about helm and not seeing the MLB line tonight and helm scores... that'll teach me.
The Fires of Rivalry
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I think Mantha should punch Hamonic in the ####ing face again just to send that one flames fan over the edge who insists Mo's dirty
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I hope I'm wrong, but so far this feels like it's gonna be one of Mantha's floater games.
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Wings sub beaks the flames stadium for being quiet when most nights at home you can hear a pin drop in little Caesar’s.
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Here's a pointless observation: The Flames, of Calgary, Alberta, play in the Scotiabank Saddledome. A bank founded 2,334 miles away in Halifax, Nova Scotia, and headquarted in Toronto, Ontario. It’s the rough geographical equivalent of the Carolina Hurricanes playing in the Starbucks Superdome. Let’s Go Red Wings.
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Calgary is one of those teams that we should hate more. During the summer I watched highlights from the 2007 series and they were crazy dirty, and especially after that brawl game at LCA a few years back. I hope we kick their ass tonight, especially after that effort in Vancouver.
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Missed that. He's gonna get a lot of #### for that, but Calgary/Detroit games are always ugly. #### Calgary
Not So Tenacious D
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I'm excited for this game. But I'm more of a "here we go again, lost 2 in a row" excited. I miss the "holy #### we're 3-1 LETS GO!" excited...
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Feels like every time we play Calgary we get the #### kicked out of us, physically. Try and stay healthy after tonight.
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Hopefully Larkin's message after the Vancouver game resonates. The lack of blocked shots on the penalty kill was really noticeable.
But then again, our blue line might be the worst in the league so I'm not sure it matters what is said.
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If only we had a first round defenseman to help our terrible defense...
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Our blue line is arguably bottom 3, but replace DK with Daley and it’s easily the worst by a mile.
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I hope James Tiberius Howard doesn’t feel like he’s playing Space Invaders tonight.
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I’m sick of your forecheck tonight, Calgary.
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Man, if this is how they're going to skate tonight... Edmonton is going to have a field day with them tomorrow.
Powerplay Woes
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You know your broadcast crew is on point when the first you hear that your team is on a powerplay is when the arena announcer calls it
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Our PP is so bad lol. The drop pass hasn't worked in, say, 5 years, but nooooo, let's keep doing it!
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Hasn't worked since Datsyuk left for Russia.
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Everyone is standing still, staring at the puck. Nobody is even remotely trying without the puck... this is embarrassing.
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powerless play
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My husband: "I feel bad that Yzerman is watching this. The guys were selling him, ’We’re just snakebit’"
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what in the **** is abby doing, holy ****
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I don't understand how we went from a greatlooking powerplay in the pre to whatever the hell this is supposed to be. It looks nothing like the pp we were running in the pre.
This is all dump pass and east-west over the zone, none of the north-south that made the preseason pp fun to watch
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I recall that it was the same last year. During preseason the power play looked aggressive, creative. After the season started it was back to standing there staring at each other.
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Just like Blashill drew it up.
"Be sure and get the puck to Abby. He's the key to the whole power play."
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The PP has felt so toothless so far.
We still aren’t moving the defense around at all, and a single deflection means it leaves the zone. I thought it would get a bit more mobile with Kronner out, but so far no dice.
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Nice 2:00 power pass.
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"A work in progress"
That’s…one way to describe it
Hey y’all, prepare yourself for the rubberband…. man
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I hope Jimmy’s groin is ok
That was a bigger stretch than Topher Grace playing Venom
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Holy ####balls what a save
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Being a Detroit goalie in the last 5 years has got to be ####ing painful
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Not sure how old man Jimmy didn't tear his groin right there... Whoa
Crap Cakes Guy
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Crap Cakes! What an ugly goal
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Crap Cakes
did we even have 4 guys on the ice there? sheesh
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Crapity crap cakes
Fire the PK
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Crap Cakes ugh
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Crap Cakes again 5-1 seems a familiar number for Road Wings
The Mangiapane Tip
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I hate that after all those great stops... that's the one that goes in. **** luck right now.
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weird redirect on a floater from Giordano.
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Ah crap. Did Howard get screened by DDK?
edit – Nope, that was a nasty tip on the shot
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Holy cow these SN announcers are bad
Spent the last minute talking about how a shot that hit Howards stick was getting in his head. That shot wasn’t even slightly on net. It had no effect on the obvious deflection that went in on the next shot.
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That goal started with a really bad decision by Larkin compounded by poor execution by Mantha.
Lindholm on the PP
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I mean seriously
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Debating whether to go to bed or see if they can climb out of this hole. Damnit I have a meeting super early in the morning...
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Wow was that brutal puck watching PK.
Gator really guilty of it, but most of the guys looked ready to be taken advantage of.
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That PK...yikes.
Big Scary Looch
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Well, there's the first big mistake by Biega.
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You can't lose a puck race to Lucic
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Wow the dman heard the footsteps there... awful
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Looked like he was hesitant to go hard into the corners with Lucic right behind him. I mean, I can't really blame him, but still.
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Lol just look at our defense putting in minimal effort.
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Now we know why Biega got waived.
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Soft play on the puick there by Biega
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Oh no, Biega let Lucic do a good
That’s a no bueno
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Blerg
We gave Lucic a point
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Outmuscled by Lucic, outmuscled by Bennett
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I'm done watching this crap. This team makes Lucic look like he's 27 again.
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“Bennett just slipped it in deep.”
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The entire Flames was in deep, slipping it in wouldn't be the proper description. Dry would be my preferred adjective.
Milan Lucic’s Powers of Persuasion
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Lucic stahp
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.... did Hronek just score lucic's goal?
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Now we're putting pucks into our own net.
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Glad to see Hronek get a goal .. just sucks it was for the Flames
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I’m sick, the Yankees can’t hit a beach ball with RISP, and now Lucic has multiple points... Terrible day.
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Oh no, did they let that buttscum score too?
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Well that sure escalated quickly
looks like Ryan not Lucic
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I went to let the dog out and it was 2-1. I look at the TV when I get back it’s 4-1. Wtf.
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i literally went to go pump gas and came back to it being 4-1 idk what the #### happened
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I give up. This game went sideways and isn't coming back. I'm thinking the blender was a fail.
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Wow, I fly into Salt Lake City...
…and while waiting for my connecting flight log in to this? Is our D this bad?
Eye for an Eye
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Helm probably jumped a 100 spots in yahoo fantasy rank with the G and PIMs
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Helmer... dude…
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Veterans should be helping show the kids how to keep their composure
This might be the angriest I’ve been at Darren Helm in his entire career.
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Much worse
The team practically stopped playing in the third. Helm took an awful retaliatory slashing major. Completely undisciplined hockey.
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Why? The Flames are one of the dirtiest team in the league. Helm wouldn't do this out of nowhere.
Edit: And I was right.
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1- Blatant ####ing elbow to the face missed, gg refs.
2- How is it not a 5 minute penalty on hamonic for taking his gloves off and fighting helm while helm didnt take his gloves off?
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Helm is probably fortunate he got a game because you know he was going to get run by one of about a dozen players on the Flames.
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Looks like a dive from that angle tbh.
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Oh NHL, you are such a joke
Lindholm clearly elbowed Helm in the face, yet Helm is the only one getting any sort of penalty
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Get out-toughed, then hurt a guy with a cheap shot. Great.
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If no one has suggested it yet... I’m crediting Helm with a "Marchand Hat Trick" (goal, major, misconduct)
B, I, And Gio!
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5-1 who cares
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Specialty teams are just pathetic once again. Nothing new
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I'm not even sure what to think. Just outclassed once again... team has zero talent.
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Red Wings hockey baby
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I can handle losing, but these games aren't even close at this point. Not a single bright spot from these performances.
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We look just as bad as last year... Which makes sense given that the roster is the same.
Yzerman fishing for a top 3 pick. Hope the lottery gods help us out for once
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thats it for me, folks. Ill keep watching when they try
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If any team needs a 5 to ####ing 1 win. Here ya go.
I’m guessing that our effort will be a lot better than the Philly game and we will outplay Detroit but end up losing.
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Hope shames doing a better job to soften up Wings tonight, Philly look rested! Flames aren't hard to play it seems!
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After last game you think.were a playoff team?????
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oh my. Lucic got his first point...
And looks like maybe his first goal
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Boys better come out with some fire after that “talking to” from Dad Tippet. Detroit is getting waxed.
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Let’s hope they do and respond well, Detroit will be extra motivated for our game. If we’re for real, we should win this and not the same way we won yesterday. Lots of interesting dynamics for tomorrow’s game, all in our sleek new jersey’s.
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Wonder if Flames fans think 5 goals on 28 shots is sustainable (aware they continued to put up shots afterwards)......especially when Big Save Dave kept the Flames ahead in the opening frame......#notsustainable
Also, it would have been sweet if Lucic’s first goal was an own goal.....
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I think it matters when I can’t get a good read on either his intent or the result of his actions from the angles I’ve seen. I’m not saying he doesn’t share blame, I’m only saying I can’t tell how egregious it was while looking down from the rafters of the dome.
The slash seems much more obvious to me.
Yes, intent matters and it's difficult to get a read, but again, whether or not the elbow landed does not matter. If a player clearly intended to elbow someone and missed, is he off the hook? I don't think so. Maybe we can say we're not sure if Lindholm intended to elbow Helm. Seems like other corners of the internet think it was intentional, and if it was, he deserves the blame.
I also agree Helm shares the blame for the slewfoot.
Finally, I'm not blaming Lindholm for taking matters into his own hands. I hated how we used to just whine to the refs every time something happened. I give the benefit of the doubt to Lindholm and say he was only trying to throw a big hit and got a bit carried away with the elbow. I don't mind that.
The slew foot on the faceoff is where it all started...the ref could have done his job but the Flames were up 4-1 at the time so why make a call and prevent the incident
Why rely on the refs? I would liked to see Lindholm slewfoot Helm right back. Or have Looch give him a two hander. We can't be pushed around like that and whine to the refs all the time.
I don't mind that Lindholm tried to make a big hit. But then I can't also blame Helm for retaliating.
Why rely on the refs? I would liked to see Lindholm slewfoot Helm right back. Or have Looch give him a two hander. We can't be pushed around like that and whine to the refs all the time.
I don't mind that Lindholm tried to make a big hit. But then I can't also blame Helm for retaliating.
I didn't see the game last night, was listening to the radio and it sounded like Lindholm got cut down by a flaming two handing axe. Looking at the replay, that was a pretty light slash honestly, Helm didn't hit him hard at all. Lindy went down pretty hard there looking to draw the penalty, which he did.
A bunch of us here were saying Lucic is faster than Neal when the trade went down. So far he certainly appears to be... he's just massive and hunched over because of his Scheuermann's Disease so he tends to look slow I guess?
I honestly thought he had extra padding or funny shoulder pads or something.
TIL...
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