No, not really. It's one opinion among many. Not only that, he's very good friends with Cherry which means it would be nearly impossible for him to be objective about this.
I'm not mad about that, we should all stick up for our friends.
Hockey legent Bobby Orr called the Don Cherry firing disgraceful:
"I know Grapes better than anyone. He's not a bigot and he's not a racist"
Orr also described Cherry as a "generous, caring guy"
"What they've done to him up there is disgraceful. It really is."
I couldn't agree more.
“generous, caring guy” I can fully believe. “not a racist” I can also believe. By no means does he seem to be a monster. But, the guy sure has said a lot of bigoted things over the years for someone who isn't a bigot.
Maybe it's just part of the act he hypes himself up into for TV and he wouldnt say those things when he's at home or with friends. Nonetheless, in his public persona there's a pretty strong history of him saying bigoted things and the most generous interpretation that even seems plausible is the “I'm not a bigot, but I play one on TV” defense. Personally, I find that unconvincing and I think the bigotry is a true representation of his views. At the same time, the guy is in his 80s and it's not shocking that someone of his age, era and background would hold those views.
He deserved to get fired, but he shouldn't have been on TV anymore anyways. A dignified and respectful tribute to all the good he did over the course of his career is in order on the network this Saturday, and then the world should move on. He deserves to be gone and shouldn't be back.
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Or because he is a close friend he actually knows him?
Lots of people would rather read between the lines and skewer the guy than read the straight lines and even consider them.
It really reveals a lot about people
What is that? That we are critical thinkers?
Besides, Canada is an inclusive nation, and we don't just accept the straight lines in the society. All lines are accepted and celebrated in this culture.
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“It all happened so fast. I wish we could have had another day,” he said.
And now he is faced with trying to figure out what comes next.
He spent Wednesday at CBC headquarters meeting with Sportsnet brass and producers to work on just that.
“I am doing some thinking,” MacLean said Wednesday. “I am taking these days to sort and order what I will say Saturday.”
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Besides, Canada is an inclusive nation, and we don't just accept the straight lines in the society. All lines are accepted and celebrated in this culture.
Wtf do you mean?
I mean read the actual lines, not between them
I will go edit that. Surprised you can misinterpret that. Really looking for something that’s not there. That critical thinking too?
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“ Lots of people would rather read between the lines and skewer the guy than take a direct unambiguous quote and even consider it. ”
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“generous, caring guy” I can fully believe. “not a racist” I can also believe. By no means does he seem to be a monster. But, the guy sure has said a lot of bigoted things over the years for someone who isn't a bigot.
Maybe it's just part of the act he hypes himself up into for TV and he wouldnt say those things when he's at home or with friends. Nonetheless, in his public persona there's a pretty strong history of him saying bigoted things and the most generous interpretation that even seems plausible is the “I'm not a bigot, but I play one on TV” defense. Personally, I find that unconvincing and I think the bigotry is a true representation of his views. At the same time, the guy is in his 80s and it's not shocking that someone of his age, era and background would hold those views.
It's a weird thing with some people. I've seen my father in law get older and become super bigoted in private. But out in public or unfamiliar settings he's a very caring a nice person to everyone. I think when he's in his comfort zone and feeling confident he can be just a supreme dick.
I can see that being the deal with Cherry. He's a cocky jerk on tv but he could be a totally decent guy when the pretense is dropped and he has to be a normal human.
They should have fired Ron Maclean, simply because he is boring and ineffective. I’d like to see Burke promoted, he is one of the few that is clever and funny.
Let’s not start crapping on Bobby Orr now, a man that invented the modern day defense position, went to law school and rose from zero to become a multi million dollar businessman. His accomplishments are unparalleled.
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Ron MacLean is a corporate shill who after giving his long time friend and co host a thumbs up after the segment, immediately threw him under the bus the next day once complaints rolled in. Did Cherry choose poor words? Yes. Should he apologize? Yes, and he already said he worded it wrong. However I can't stand guys like MacLean, he was that kid that when him and his buddies did something bad at school he would sneak off to tell the teacher so he wouldn't get in trouble. With friends like that you don't need enemies.
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Definitely similarities with regards to being a blowhard, being bigoted, being a nationalist, being an entertainer and being unable to speak coherently, but Trump is a crook and an awful person.
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They should have fired Ron Maclean, simply because he is boring and ineffective. I’d like to see Burke promoted, he is one of the few that is clever and funny.
Let’s not start crapping on Bobby Orr now, a man that invented the modern day defense position, went to law school and rose from zero to become a multi million dollar businessman. His accomplishments are unparalleled.
Orr became a player agent, but I don’t think he went to law school?
There are a handful of NHL players and ex players who I really listen to. When they say something, including about matters broader than the game, I sit up and take notice.
Bobby Orr is not one of them.
I must admit this comment really surprised me. Bobby Orr is a legend and widely respected on and off the ice.
Ron MacLean is a corporate shill who after giving his long time friend and co host a thumbs up after the segment, immediately threw him under the bus the next day once complaints rolled in. Did Cherry choose poor words? Yes. Should he apologize? Yes, and he already said he worded it wrong. However I can't stand guys like MacLean, he was that kid that when him and his buddies did something bad at school he would sneak off to tell the teacher so he wouldn't get in trouble. With friends like that you don't need enemies.
Some of you must live very simplistic lives to not realize how complicated things are behind the scenes at SN. My guess is Ron stood by Don, I mean given their friendship its certain he did.
But to keep his position he did what SN demanded of him and apologized. Corporate shill? LOL
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Hockey legend Bobby Orr called the Don Cherry firing disgraceful:
"I know Grapes better than anyone. He's not a bigot and he's not a racist"
Orr also described Cherry as a "generous, caring guy"
"What they've done to him up there is disgraceful. It really is."
I couldn't agree more.
Orr is the wrong person to be asking. Him and Cherry go back many years and are the best of friends and his opinion is obviously biased. Friends will often stick up for one another no matter what.
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They should have fired Ron Maclean, simply because he is boring and ineffective. I’d like to see Burke promoted, he is one of the few that is clever and funny.
Let’s not start crapping on Bobby Orr now, a man that invented the modern day defense position, went to law school and rose from zero to become a multi million dollar businessman. His accomplishments are unparalleled.
