Friedman's 31 thoughts - Feb 19 - Flames are a stealth destination for Duchene?

[sureLoss]

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...-matt-duchene/

Flames related:

If he had to choose a stealth destination for Duchene it would be the Isles or Calgary.
Columbus and Nashville are in it for sure. Not convinced Winnipeg is interested.
Columbus' offer for Duchene includes Wennberg
Preds will try to keep Duchene long term if they acquire him.

Sens came with 5 yrs @ $10.5 mil per to Stone.
Winnipeg and Calgary will be in on Stone

Kypreos reported Neal will be out a while.
wonders if like Kane in 2015, Neal returns for the playoffs where the salary cap doesn't matter and that Treliving is investigating the possibilites

Speculates that Patrik Nemeth might be the depth LHD that Calgary is looking for

Treliving is being careful with goaltenders
wants to bolster Smith's and Rittich's confidence, not rattle them

list of teams looking at both Zuccarello and Simmonds: BOS, CGY, SJ, PIT, VGK

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...-matt-duchene/

Flames related:

If he had to choose a stealth destination for Duchene it would be the Isles or Calgary.
Columbus and Nashville are in it for sure. Not convinced Winnipeg is interested.
Columbus' offer for Duchene includes Wennberg
Preds will try to keep Duchene long term if they acquire him.

Sens came with 5 yrs @ $10.5 mil per to Stone.
Winnipeg and Calgary will be in on Stone

Kypreos reported Neal will be out a while.
wonders if like Kane in 2015, Neal returns for the playoffs where the salary cap doesn't matter and that Treliving is investigating the possibilites

Speculates that Patrik Nemeth might be the depth LHD that Calgary is looking for

If Neal goes on LTIR, the Flames could sign a very pricy rental.

[Samuelsson]

I'm really adverse to giving up one of our young guys on D. I know you have to give to get, but I've got the homerism attachment :-(

[ComixZone]

Duchene would be an interest get. Centre depth would look like:

Monahan
Duchene
Backlund
Ryan

With Jankowski, Bennett and Lindholm able to slide into a centre spot if an injury occurs.

Duchene is also blazingly fast and offers a level of dynamic play that we lack a bit of once you get past the first line.

Duchene and Stone are the only two deadline acquisitions up front that I’d be over joyed to see acquired, because I could see both as long term members of the team. I would hope a trade could get done based heavily on picks and not prospects.

Also, props to whoever predicted Patrick Nemeth as an option on the back-end around here a few days ago.

[puckedoff]

If Calgary trades for Duchene I bet we will somehow miss the playoffs. No thanks.

[devo22]

Duchene's a pure rental and would cost a ton. After trading 2 of our last 4 1sts and several 2nds and 3rds already, I'd hate to give up even more good futures for Duchene.

[Toonage]

Strange comment from Friedman after the Nemeth mention. brings up Treliving being cautious about goaltending but that particular thought didn't even bring it up. Just D. Feels like something is missing there. Kicking tires on Varlamov?

[sureLoss]

other rumors:

Dzingel's future is tied with Stone decision
more will be known about Ceci closer to the deadline
McQuaid trade talks gaining traction

stealth team for Panarin is Dallas who also checked in on Zuccarello
best chances at signing Panarin long term: FLA, LA, NYI, NYR
Boston and Isles could be rental options

If Isles don't get Panarin, Lou might look at Kovalchuk

If Blues don't get Duchene, focus will shift to Hayes

One possibility to move Bobvrosky is an extension in exchange for waiving his full NMC.
Columbus recently tried another extension attempt but not looking good

Oilers resisted lowball offers on Puljujarvi but the player is not happy there

Avs are trying to move Andrighetto

Leafs haven't stopped looking at right hand d options

teams checking in on Johansson: CBJ, EDM, SJ, VAN, and maybe WSH

Canucks have looked at Burakovsky potentially replacing injured Baertschi

Caps are looking for this year's Kempny

Canes probably can't trade Ferland anymore so close to the playoffs, certainly not to PIT

Canes could whip up a frenzy by taking a run at Eric Staal but Wild may not do another trade with the Canes after Rask/Niederrieter

DET has asked Nyquist for a list of teams he'd consider
Frk might find a new home too

[colbym72]

I know the weird stigma that surrounds Duchene but he is immediately probably our best centerman and is more dynamic than Monahan.

[Fire]

If Stone is going to get $10.5 million, then that pretty much eliminates the Flames from signing him.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...-matt-duchene/...Sens came with 5 yrs @ $10.5 mil per to Stone.
Winnipeg and Calgary will be in on Stone...

That is a huge contract. I am guessing that the Flames are out with an offer like that on the table.


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[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by puckedoff

If Calgary trades for Duchene I bet we will somehow miss the playoffs. No thanks.

Well, I'll tell you what;

If we somehow land Matt Duchene, I'll gladly take that bet.

[Ozy_Flame]

$10.5 million to Stone? Hell no.

[Yoho]

5 year term would be nice.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by colbym72

I know the weird stigma that surrounds Duchene but he is immediately probably our best centerman and is more dynamic than Monahan.

I think the stigma is complete hogwash to be honest.

He turned down 8x8 from Ottawa because he wants a chance to play on a winning team, not a rebuilding team - which is all he’s been a part of. He joined the Senators while the tire fire was already burning (Karlsson/Hoffman/Junk Owner) after spending years on a rebuilding Avalanche team that are still a fringe playoff team at best.

Taylor Hall, Evander Kane are just two names who previously had similar stigmas. It’s not their fault, nor is it Duchene’s fault that they’ve all played for crappy organizations. This is Duchene’s chance to fix that, just like how Kane did last year. Duchene wants to win, and would be an awesome get.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Jankowski
Bennett - Duchene - Neal
Mangiapane - Ryan - Hathaway

Those are 4 lines that could decimate. Duchene + Bennett would be awesome to see.

That said, I like the Stone fit better due to age and the fact that he’d take Tkachuk + Backlund to the next level.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Yoho

5 year term would be nice.

Not @ $10.5 m.


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[Toonage]

He (Stone) might be more reasonable for any team other than Ottawa. Who knows.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

That is a huge contract. I am guessing that the Flames are out with an offer like that on the table.


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5@10.5 = 52.5
8@8.75 = 70

I could see that working

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I think the stigma is complete hogwash to be honest.

He turned down 8x8 from Ottawa because he wants a chance to play on a winning team, not a rebuilding team - which is all he’s been a part of. He joined the Senators while the tire fire was already burning (Karlsson/Hoffman/Junk Owner) after spending years on a rebuilding Avalanche team that are still a fringe playoff team at best...

That is not quite right. When Duchene was traded to Ottawa the Senators were in the midst of a strong start to the season, and coming off a playoff appearance in which they were a Conference finalist—they lost in Game 7 by a single goal. This was well before the Hoffman/Karlsson drama had erupted, and there was plenty of optimism surrounding the team’s near future when that trade occurred. It all fell apart pretty quickly thereafter.


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[kukkudo]

If 10.5M for 5 years is on the table, Stone should take that and run.