11-04-2020, 11:40 AM
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#141
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Itse
Brouwer and Neal were also more superfluous signings, and as such not as much worth the risk. We weren't in desperate need of forwards, although we could certainly have used a physical top 6 wingers these last years.
Signing Markström addresses a need on top of possibly elevating this team to a higher tier.
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Yes, and the same can be said for Tanev - filled a big need
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11-04-2020, 11:43 AM
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#142
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Hating the Markstrom signing is very bizarre to me. The Panthers gave Bob 10.5x7 last year and the Flames got the top goalie on a 6x6 deal. Many goalies maintain their starter level of play into their mid-30’s
Markstrom is the 9th highest paid goalie next year and finished 4th in Vezina voting. He was a highly touted prospect who many thought would go in the first round d but slipped to the 2nd. He has proven over the last 2-3 years to be living up to his potential while being the Canucks MVP.
I don’t see it as an overpay at all and think that is a good UFA signing. I love the deal and so happy we got the player.
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Sure beats continually giving up good assets like a 2nd (‘13) a 2nd (‘16) and a 3rd (‘18) for guys like Ramo, Elliot and Smith.
We needed to stop giving away these picks for short-term solutions.
Markstrom is the most legit goalie we’ve had since Kipper or possibly Hiller in his first season.
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11-04-2020, 11:54 AM
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#143
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
No Kinvall news, leaving unsatisfied
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Is Kinnvall the new Jankowski??
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11-04-2020, 11:59 AM
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#144
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkhouser
Is Kinnvall the new Jankowski??
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Stay on topic, this is about Treliving UFA signings
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11-05-2020, 03:18 PM
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#145
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Searched “Jankowski” and it brought me to this thread. Nice.
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11-15-2020, 02:12 PM
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#146
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First Line Centre
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Johannes Kinnvall's numbers in the SHL are absolutely insane.
He has the second highest REL Corsi in the league (+14.68) and is BY FAR the best producing D-man in the league at 5v5 (1.65 G/60 + 1.65 A/60 = 3.30 P/60). 2nd place is at 2.40 P/60 and there's only 4 D-men total above 2.00 P/60
A little hyped.
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11-15-2020, 10:22 PM
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#147
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL
Johannes Kinnvall's numbers in the SHL are absolutely insane.
He has the second highest REL Corsi in the league (+14.68) and is BY FAR the best producing D-man in the league at 5v5 (1.65 G/60 + 1.65 A/60 = 3.30 P/60). 2nd place is at 2.40 P/60 and there's only 4 D-men total above 2.00 P/60
A little hyped.
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And how about normal stats?
Edit: did they take a break due to COVID? Still 8GP, 11 points.
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11-15-2020, 10:37 PM
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#148
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djsFlames
And how about normal stats?
Edit: did they take a break due to COVID? Still 8GP, 11 points.
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By my count, he's tied for 3rd in D scoring-but the guys ahead of him have played far more games. Nolan Zajac has 13pts in 14 games, and Eric Gelinas has 12pts in 14 games. Kinnvall has 11pts in just 8 games. Moritz Seider, the highly touted 19yr old Red Wings first-rounder, has 7pts in 8 games-just for comparison.
Last edited by Sandman; 11-16-2020 at 01:43 AM.
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11-15-2020, 11:07 PM
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#149
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
By my count, he's tied for 3rd in D scoring-but the guys ahead of him have played far more games. Nolan Zajac has 13pts in 14 games, and Eric Gelinas has 12pts in 14 games. Kinnvall has 11pts in just 8 games. Moritz Seider, the highly touted 19yr old Blackhawks first-rounder, has 7pts in 8 games-just for comparison.
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11-24-2020, 01:18 PM
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#150
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First Line Centre
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1331329672542629897
Kinnvall is now up to 5 goals and 13 points in 10 games played.
Came into today only 3 points behind the point leader on defense despite playing 8 less games. Every other defensemen ranked 1-15 has played a minimum 14 games.
Kinnvall is also HV71's best player by every advanced metric.
Stud.
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11-24-2020, 02:51 PM
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#151
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Wow not gunna lie I'm kinda just shocked at how under the radar this signing was and how we basically just signed a top five prospect in our farm system for free.
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11-24-2020, 03:19 PM
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#152
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I wonder if his recent play would bump him up the CP Rankings?
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11-24-2020, 03:26 PM
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#153
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Lifetime Suspension
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He's probably our second best defense prospect if you're looking primarily at upside
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11-24-2020, 05:02 PM
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#154
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Doesn't hurt that Kinnvall is from the same hometown as Elias Lindholm. How many Elias Lindholm connections do we have now!
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11-24-2020, 05:13 PM
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#155
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First Line Centre
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Can he play center? Apparently Monahan scores too many goals to be a center. Goals are a bad thing now I guess.
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11-24-2020, 05:46 PM
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#156
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First Line Centre
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I feel like we have an abundance of riches in young NHL caliber dmen (or trending towards becoming):
Andersson
Hanifin
Valimaki
Kylington
Mackey
Yelesin
Kinnvall
Plus we have Gio, Tanev and Nesterov.
Good times!
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11-24-2020, 07:42 PM
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#157
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanCharles
I feel like we have an abundance of riches in young NHL caliber dmen (or trending towards becoming):
Andersson
Hanifin
Valimaki
Kylington
Mackey
Yelesin
Kinnvall
Plus we have Gio, Tanev and Nesterov.
Good times!
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Kuznetsov??? Guy is the youngest of the studs 
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11-24-2020, 08:19 PM
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#158
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gilligans_off
I wonder if his recent play would bump him up the CP Rankings?
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I think I voted for him 4 or 5 rounds before he got in.
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11-24-2020, 08:36 PM
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#159
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Samonadreau
I think I voted for him 4 or 5 rounds before he got in.
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I did the same.
The Kinvall Wizard.
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