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Old 03-13-2019, 09:28 AM   #41
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How did Bush get into Yale or Trump into UPenn? These guys weren't exactlyknown for thier academic achievements.
It was a misconception that Bush was dumb. He was a bad president, yes, but Bush was actually a really smart guy. Yale would have been no problem for him.

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Trump on the other hand...
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Old 03-13-2019, 09:36 AM   #42
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I don't know how this would be fun for anyone involved. Like how do you show up for rowing on your first day having never rowed? I'd feel like a loser. ok. More of a loser.
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Old 03-13-2019, 09:38 AM   #43
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Maybe I'm just a cynic but University acceptance is so silly, even in Canada, that I'm not sure this even really bothers me.
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Old 03-13-2019, 01:17 PM   #44
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The district-by-district public school funding system in the United States is so unfair. It turns my stomach.
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I was wondering what the Aunt Becky from Full House gong to jail meme's were about.
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Old 03-13-2019, 01:46 PM   #48
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Wow, that is straight up embarrassing and inexcusable. Twelve years jail time for sending your kid to a better school.
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I don't know how this would be fun for anyone involved. Like how do you show up for rowing on your first day having never rowed? I'd feel like a loser. ok. More of a loser.
I cant imagine actually playing for the team was part of the deal.
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Old 03-13-2019, 07:16 PM   #50
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You mean rich kids like Brad Treliving?
Doesn't apply when this is your father...

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Old 03-13-2019, 07:21 PM   #51
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I don't know how this would be fun for anyone involved. Like how do you show up for rowing on your first day having never rowed? I'd feel like a loser. ok. More of a loser.
From what I read and understand, most of these kids didn't show up to the teams/programs they were admitted for. If anyone from the university administration questioned why they weren't showing up, the coaches would invent a long term injury as an excuse.
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Wow, that is straight up embarrassing and inexcusable. Twelve years jail time for sending your kid to a better school.
She was sentenced (in two districts) for trying to sell drugs to undercover police officers on several occasions while she was out on bond from the school charges.


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She was sentenced (in two districts) for trying to sell drugs to undercover police officers on several occasions while she was out on bond from the school charges.


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https://www.ctpost.com/news/article/...on-3437974.php
But....but.....but.....that's inconvenient!
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She was sentenced (in two districts) for trying to sell drugs to undercover police officers on several occasions while she was out on bond from the school charges.


https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/new...ll-3350071.php

https://www.ctpost.com/news/article/...on-3437974.php
What does that have to do with an idiotic system that would send someone to jail for enrolling their kid in a different school?
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What does that have to do with an idiotic system that would send someone to jail for enrolling their kid in a different school?
She went to jail for selling drugs. Whether she would have actually have gone to jail for just the school charges is unknown since she committed worse crimes.
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Well, that little statement says a whole hell of a lot more about you than it does about any American, myself included. Any, being the key word in your statement....clearly indicates you weren't generalizing and actually believe what you stated at face value.

I don't understand what kind of environment it takes for someone to have such a narrow view. I feel sorry for you.
Yes obviously I was generalizing. Do you think I think every single Americanís only thing they care about is money? Letís just relax and if I offended you Iím sorry. Also if it makes you feel any better Canadian culture and society is actually very similar. When you have a fully capitalist system and have the kind of institutionalized issues with wealth sharing and retaining a middle class, I dunno how you really get your back up. Do the majority of Americans demand change? No, not really.

So really my statement was maybe poorly worded because I didnít think anybody would actually interpret what I said in such a bizarre way but Iím not sure Iím wrong on the overall sentiment. Again sorry I offended you.
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She was sentenced (in two districts) for trying to sell drugs to undercover police officers on several occasions while she was out on bond from the school charges.


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https://www.ctpost.com/news/article/...on-3437974.php
Would a white college kid get 12 years for selling drugs?
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Would a white college kid get 12 years for selling drugs?
Are you kidding? Paul Manafort didn't even get 12 years, and he was conspiring with Russians!
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I don't know if this fits, but I work at a private university where tuition is high, but virtually everyone is accepted and it truly doesn't take that much to get a degree here. We have plenty of very wealthy kids who ain't so good at the book-learnin' thang. Most students eventually make their way through an undergraduate program as long as they do the bare minimum.

My experience with these students is that they have no moral compass when it comes to academic honesty. Lying about their work comes as easy to them as breathing. It's normalized, as one student told me after admitting that her tutor wrote her paper, "I did this all the time in high school and nobody told me it was wrong." These kids are raised either by their parents or the school systems to think that dishonesty is the norm and entirely acceptable.

Further to that, the school rarely seems to care. Sure, when egregious examples of academic dishonesty are found they suspend or expel the student, but they are often allowed back in after their "time out" without any further reprimand. At the end of the day, if the student continues to pay their exorbitant tuition, they're allowed to muddle their way through classes and get a piece of paper that really wasn't earned, but bought.

This is the American way. I find it disheartening, and it makes me wonder how much longer I want to be a part of it. There are positives to the institutions, don't get me wrong. It's not all bad. It's just that there is an undercurrent of dishonesty that permeates all of post-secondary institutions in America. Education is good business these days, as everyone is striving to get ahead in an economy where there are fewer and fewer quality jobs for high school educated people. Heck, even an undergraduate degree doesn't guarantee anything these days.

This case is a symptom of the general sickness plaguing universities in America. You can't just treat the fever, you have to attack the infection somehow. Whole scale changes need to be made.
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