2020-21 Raptors and General NBA Thread

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I do love the NBA blockbuster and how multiple teams are always brought in.

Huge risk for the Nets here and while this will likely have a better result than their 2013 trade with the Celtics that only got them to the 2nd round and cost them picks that turned into Brown, Tatum and Sexton. If all players are dialed in then there isn’t a better trio in the league than KD, Beard and Kyrie. Kyrie and Harden are absolute headcases though. Nets do have D’Antoni on their coaching staff though and he and Harden have a long relationship.

Rockets got the draft assets but I am not sure why they didn’t take the sizers offer of Simmons++. That is a 24 year old potential franchise player who is locked up long term. The rockets also sent a bunch of future picks to OKC for Westbrook a year ago so they can’t just go full tank. Oladipo is a good player and can be flipped or re-signed. Rockets still have a decent rotation with Dipo, Wall, Wood, Cozens. I heard the Rockets owner refused to trade Harden to Morey in Philly but that is dumb since it was the better deal. I guess banking on those Nets picks being higher in 5-7 years could turn out well for the rockets.

I love the deal for the Cavs who got Allen for dirt cheap. Apparently the rockets wanted to stay out of the luxury tax which is why they took the pick and Cleveland got Allen.

Pacers sent a guy who was likely to leave into a solid player who has 2 more years at a good price and a 2nd

Pretty exciting trade all around and so much more complex than any NHL deal

As for why the Rockets went with the Nets over the Sixers, from what I have heard there are two reasons. One, as you say, they preferred not to deal with Morey from a personal standpoint. But I also heard the ++ in the Simmons ++ offer really wasn't all that much. Not only did the Nets provide a bunch of picks, it was the ability to swap unprotected picks in four other years that is rather unprecedented. The chances of ending up with lottery picks really increases. It's doubtful the Sixers offered anything close to that.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

As for why the Rockets went with the Nets over the Sixers, from what I have heard there are two reasons. One, as you say, they preferred not to deal with Morey from a personal standpoint. But I also heard the ++ in the Simmons ++ offer really wasn't all that much. Not only did the Nets provide a bunch of picks, it was the ability to swap unprotected picks in four other years that is rather unprecedented. The chances of ending up with lottery picks really increases. It's doubtful the Sixers offered anything close to that.

I think the third reason could be money as well. Simmons comes with a max contract already in place and they could walk away from Oladipo rather easily.


The pick swaps likely will come in handy considering Harden and Durant are in their 30’s and might not even be in the league in 26,27 when the Rockets still own the pick/swap rights.

[Strange Brew]

I believe one of the reasons the NBA is able to pull off such complex trades is some of the brainpower involved. Harden hired Wasserman, an athlete representation and marketing firm to facilitate the trade. This isn’t Treliving phoning Garth Snow or Don Waddell. You have conference rooms of MBA’s working on these deals.

[octothorp]

Really fascinating trade, and I love it for the Pacers. Partly I love it because so many guys I like (Levert, Brogdon, Sabonis, Turner) all on the same team. They aren't deep, but it's a really exciting young core.

[Senator Clay Davis]

You know I saw a lot of possibilities for this season, but Chris Boucher legitimately being the Raps best player certainly wasn't one of them. He is definitely on the untouchable players list for the rebuild.

[transplant99]

An example of how absurd salaries really are.

Kyrie Irving will lose nearly $900,000 as the result of a violation of the NBA's health and safety protocols, the league announced Friday morning.

The NBA has fined Irving $50,000 for violating the coronavirus safety protocols, following an investigation into videos of the Brooklyn Nets guard at a family birthday party that began circulating on social media earlier this week.

The All-Star will also forfeit his salary for the two games he missed during his five-day quarantine, which ends Saturday. According to ESPN's Bobby Marks, Irving will lose $816,898.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...day-quarantine

[Nsd1]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1350576581270515714

Bad luck for the Pacers but having to take a physical after being traded might have saved Caris.

[octothorp]

Hate seeing another medical issue for LeVert. I've been rooting for him since his college days and he just can't catch a break.

For the Raptors, the next stretch is going to be really tough: Dallas, two each against Miami and Indiana, and then Milwaukee. All teams that have legitimate big-man rotations, something that Toronto is really struggling against. I wouldn't start Boucher because I think another team going at him could get him into foul trouble so quickly, but the team bleeds points with Baynes on the court (not always his fault).