Alcohol Alternative

[Fuzz]

They have a very interesting FAQ...

Q: What if i chug the whole pack like a real mofo?


A: Toxicological testing has determined that if you consume more than 40 at once, you run the risk of being dangerously intoxicated.
To date, we haven't encountered any customer that chose to drink more than 4. It seems that the sense of satiety conferred by the drink changes one's choices with regards to excessive behavior.
Typically, consuming too much of this is most similar to consuming too much edible cannabis.

https://pacedrink.com/pages/faq

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Thor

Hard to imagine it could do worse damage than alcohol does long term, but I get where you are coming from.

I just think we shouldn't be so dismissive of these research chemicals if we are ever to get ST Synthenol that is!

Maybe the over consumption risks. However alcohol has been well researched at the 1 drink per day level to have negligible change in mortality risk. Where we just don’t know about the short term or long term usage risks of this chemical.

At least dose up some rats for a year and see if they lose their will to live.

[Fuzz]

Wait, this #### is bath salts???

Objectives: Aminoindanes (“bath salts,” a class of novel psychoactive substances, NPSs) increased rapidly in popularity on the recreational drug market, particularly after mephedrone and other synthetic cathinones were banned in the UK in 2010. Novel aminoindanes continue to emerge, but relatively little is known about their effects and risks. Their history, chemistry, pharmacology, behavioral effects, pharmacokinetics, and toxicity are reviewed in this paper.
...

Their mechanisms of action (primarily via serotonin) mean that they may pose a significant risk of serotonin syndrome at high doses or when combined with other drugs. Fatally toxic effects have been observed both in the laboratory in animal studies and in clinic, where deaths related with aminoindanes have been reported.

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles...017.00236/full


Hard pass.

[Knut]

Also. Thanks CBC for providing free advertising to this shady company.

[Fuzz]

Well Health Canada put a stop to that one....

Health Canada is warning Canadians that Pace, a shot-sized drink that is being promoted as an alcohol substitute, contains an active ingredient—5-methoxy-2-aminoindane (MEAI)—that is similar in structure to amphetamines and may pose serious health risks. Pace is being sold online by the Diet Alcohol Corporation of the Americas.
While the product is being promoted as a beverage by the company, this product would be regulated as a drug in Canada and would require approval before it could be sold to Canadians. This product has not been assessed by Health Canada for safety, effectiveness or quality, and its sale has not been authorized by Heath Canada.
Background

MEAI (5-methoxy-2-aminoindane) is a controlled substance regulated under the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act. It is similar in structure to amphetamines. It is not approved for use as a drug in Canada, and it has not been reviewed by Health Canada for safety, effectiveness and quality. Very little is known about the effects of this substance, particularly when used long-term, in high doses or together with other substances that cause impairment. No clinical studies have been performed to study its effects in humans, but users have reported impaired coordination, inebriation, dizziness, sweating, nausea and potential effects on the heart. A safe dose to consume has also not been determined.

https://healthycanadians.gc.ca/recal...68630a-eng.php

[Cecil Terwilliger]

So back to cocaine as the best alcohol alternative then?

[Locke]

And here I thought we were going to get the annual New Year's Day "I'm never Drinking Again" vow.