[Rumour] Panthers making a push for Hanifin. Hanifin's preference is Tampa

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I would take a deal involving Lundell, over a deal involving Holtz from NJ. (Depending on the other pieces)

1)Mercer
2)Lundell
3)Holtz

imagine getting both Mercer and Lundell. Would set us up beautifully down the middle going forward. People get obsessed when it comes to draft picks (and I get it, I do too ), but I'd certainly take adding two young, promising centermen who can step into the lineup immediately.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by dammage79

The 8th year has value. What that value is TBD.

It has value for both the team that takes him and for Hanifin. Control can always play chicken with Hanifin and say that they are going to keep him for a playoff push. I best he might expand the number of teams he would extend for in that case.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I just have a feeling asking for Lundell is similar to fans thinking we could get Bourque or even Stankovin for Tanev or the fans thought we could get a 1st for Zadorov. The hype has been the Flames will get something in between the Lindholm and Tanev returns for Hanifin. I think it will be largely prospect heavy if the return is Florida.

If it is Lundell I would expect it to almost be a 1 for 1 deal for or even the Flame adding and taking back a Dman or something?

lol we would we adding to the best player in the trade ?

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Pickle Juice

I'm thinking; given what we are hearing about the negotiation's with player and agent we should be happy with a 1 for 1 trade involving Lundell, but since I'm feeling greedy who would you like to see as another piece to the puzzle involving a prospect?

You’re right, we shouldn’t expect Lundell to be included. They have some good prospects though- Mackie Samoskevich, Gracyn Sawchyn, and Jack Devine. Some lesser prospects with potential are Vlad Lukashevich, and Jakub Kos- neither of which should be the centerpiece of a Hanifin deal.

[CaptainYooh]

I always wonder when these rumour breakers say "I'm told...", who the f... tells them? It's a GM to GM call on a mobile phone. There are a couple of AGM's who are on it as well. There is no way either one of those three people call Weekes to let him know.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

I always wonder when these rumour breakers say "I'm told...", who the f... tells them? It's a GM to GM call on a mobile phone. There are a couple of AGM's who are on it as well. There is no way either one of those three people call Weekes or anyone of those guys.

player agents

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

player agents

I thought of that. But that would be blatant violation of confidentiality, wouldn't it? I think it's just might be all part of the game. They spread these rumours on purpose to get the team staff talking about possibilities.

[kyuss275]

If Florida won’t put lundell in deal , what would deal look like? Mackie and a 2026 1st for hanifin signed?

Florida really doesn’t have much to offer prospect wise

[InternationalVillager]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

I always wonder when these rumour breakers say "I'm told...", who the f... tells them? It's a GM to GM call on a mobile phone. There are a couple of AGM's who are on it as well. There is no way either one of those three people call Weekes to let him know.

Except there are probably around 20-30 people involved in talks like these. easily. each organization would have entire staffs working and liaising with each player agent and their agency counterparts etc.

[browna]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

player agents

Player agents usually via another media member to keep things at distance.

Usually with the blessing of the GM, unless otherwise instructed by the GM.
You cross the GM as a media member, all of a sudden, you as the conduit to agents etc is gone, which is why guys that know this info don't automatically leak it.


Which IMO is why Markstrom 's upset, the NJ thing likely shouldn't have gotten out via the agent or media member.

There are also some that know those in the league office. Dreger has a source in the league office (or at least he did) who sees the trade faxes come in. The Jokinen 2.0 acquisition which he errored in reporting a day early, was because of having that source.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I’ll believe it when weekes makes a forehead post

What? No eyeballs?

[Sylvanfan]

Really this likely will be as good a shot as the Panthers will have as eventually the cap monster will come after them. No real cup contender will give up a good roster player they
aren't trying to get rid off right now. So I doubt Lundell will be in this package. But I would not be surprised if Florida ends up getting Hanifin.

[dissentowner]

These trade threads are all the same.
Positive crowd: we should get a decent prospect or at least a good return.

Negative crowd: You are not getting (insert any decent prospect here).

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

lol we would we adding to the best player in the trade ?

It would be a bigger deal but when do rentals get traded for former high first rounders who have several years of cost control ahead?

Lundell is not a realistic ask for Hanifin in my opinion but if the deal is bigger maybe the Flames get a replacement Dman, toss in Rooney and the Dallas 2nd or something like that?

If they can turn Hanifin and Markstrom into Lundell and Holtz plus some other pieces the retool is off to a strong start

[Niemo]

I do wonder if Ekblad is part of a package coming back. He’s underperformed his contract by a margin.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

It would be a bigger deal but when do rentals get traded for former high first rounders who have several years of cost control ahead?

Lundell is not a realistic ask for Hanifin in my opinion but if the deal is bigger maybe the Flames get a replacement Dman, toss in Rooney and the Dallas 2nd or something like that?

If they can turn Hanifin and Markstrom into Lundell and Holtz plus some other pieces the retool is off to a strong start

1) he's not a rental (for FLA)
2) Lundell requires a new contract as well
3) if you're quoting draft pedigree, Hanifin was a 5th OA

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

These trade threads are all the same.
Positive crowd: we should get a decent prospect or at least a good return.

Negative crowd: You are not getting (insert any decent prospect here).

As much as I don’t agree with Frank Serivali when he has talked about the Flames players trade value he has been bang on recently specifically with Lindholm and Tanev (he also said Monahan would get a 1st).

He has stated the Hanifin market has been lukewarm and the return will be somewhere between what Lindholm got vs what Tanev got. That likely is a pick, roster player, prospect. I don’t know if they can land a 22 year old center who has better than 0.5ppg in almost 200 games

[Hockey_Ninja]

Sec’s insider scoops coming to fruition yet again

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Bring Back Bennett

In a vacuum I'd love it, but the resentment would be real.

[D as in David]

If all the Flames got out of trading Markstrom and Hanifin were Mercer and Lundell, it would solve a problem up the middle while seeming somewhat underwhelming return. It would also mean that not much else was on the table from other teams, at least, in Conroy's eyes. Still, having strength up the middle like that could be considered a reasonably big win.