Will be interesting to watch what happens now that Canada and basically all Western Europe have closed their airspace to Russian aircraft. Aeroflot currently has one flight encounter to JFK from Moscow and another to Cancun. Cancun is already over the US so not affected but the JFK flight is still over the North Atlantic. Obviously both aircraft will be returning to Moscow which is where it will be interesting to see the routing.
Question, it’s not Canadian airspace but Gander ACC controls the western approaches and western portion of the NATs tracks. I assume that is not affected by Canada’s announcement? And they would still work the few Russian flights that might be using them?
Well that certainly isn't the reason to say it over everything else, but yes **** Putin for the tragedy he is bringing upon so many in Ukraine. Really tough time for so many people.
Will be interesting to watch what happens now that Canada and basically all Western Europe have closed their airspace to Russian aircraft. Aeroflot currently has one flight encounter to JFK from Moscow and another to Cancun. Cancun is already over the US so not affected but the JFK flight is still over the North Atlantic. Obviously both aircraft will be returning to Moscow which is where it will be interesting to see the routing.
Question, it’s not Canadian airspace but Gander ACC controls the western approaches and western portion of the NATs tracks. I assume that is not affected by Canada’s announcement? And they would still work the few Russian flights that might be using them?
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hang a right when you get to Canada to avoic Canadian airspace, then up and over the Scandinavian countries and come down to Moscow from the north.
Though they immediately said they'd rebuild the 225 it'd be hard to make a business case for them to actually do it. But... as a source of national pride, it could be an incredible thing for people worldwide to rally around. It already drew hundreds and sometimes thousands of visitors so imagine the first visit to any city of a rebuilt 225. This could potentially be the greatest comeback story in aviation history.
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Question, it’s not Canadian airspace but Gander ACC controls the western approaches and western portion of the NATs tracks. I assume that is not affected by Canada’s announcement? And they would still work the few Russian flights that might be using them?
Correct and correct.
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Will be curious to see how it breaks down. We booked a sunwing trip in April (had better flight times and crazy money savings). Wondering how this could affect our trip. I assume it will be too soon to see any changes.
Will have to see the details but I don't see much good from this. I'd hazard a guess and say Sunwing and Swoop end up combined somehow with WestJet/Encore operating as the 'regular' arm of the business. I would also hazard a guess that much of WestJet's vacation business get's rolled into this new division meaning worse service to all sun destinations. It has already been partially Swooped in some markets, I bet the WestJet mainline brand disappears almost comp0letely from the leisure side. That is my fear anyway. Maybe Calgary and Toronto will partially escape but I doubt most other cities are as lucky.
Sunwing also largely disappears from Canada in the summer, transferring much of their operations to Europe. Now that I think about it, this could provide additional feed for WestJet's European routes people get over there. Maybe not a bad idea if they can sort it out.
I can also hear the arguments starting on how to merge the various groups (and unions), here we go again on that issue.
It has been about 1.5 years since I left WestJet but back when I was there the talks about acquiring Sunwing largely revolved around boosting the vacation side of the business and also significantly increasing passenger volume in eastern Canada, in particular Montreal. WestJet's presence in eastern Canada had been disappointing so acquiring Sunwing would provide an immediate increase in regional and international travel out east.
Will be curious to see how it breaks down. We booked a sunwing trip in April (had better flight times and crazy money savings). Wondering how this could affect our trip. I assume it will be too soon to see any changes.
No effect. If approved, the deal won’t finalize till end of 2022. Until then they are separate companies.
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How is this any different than Air Canada trying to buy Air Transat?
There is little overlap in the route structures and this one should not have as many regulatory hurdles to jump. The AC/Transat merger didn't pass the scrutiny of the European authorities who did not like the overlap of transatlantic route structures. Sunwing and WestJet differ in that there is no overseas overlap whatsoever. In addition Sunwing has a strong presence in eastern and central Canada whereas WestJet is stronger in the west. They don't really compete with each other in strength in many markets.
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