08-21-2019, 09:17 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Sens sign Colin White (6 yrs, $4.75 mil AAV)
Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
Hearing OTT and Colin White closing in on 6x4.75
Brent Wallace
@tsn_wally
Colin White contract breakdown
2019-20 - $4M
2020-21 - $4M
2021-22 - $4.75M
2022-23 - $4.75M
2023-24 - $4.75M
2024-25 - $6.25M
Last edited by sureLoss; 08-21-2019 at 09:59 AM.
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08-21-2019, 09:20 AM
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#2
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Franchise Player
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That seems like a bargain. 41 pts in 71 games at 22. (Although he looks 40)
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08-21-2019, 09:21 AM
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#3
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
Hearing OTT and Colin White closing in on 6x4.75
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Amazing deal.
White is legit.
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08-21-2019, 09:35 AM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Nah it's 4.75 years cuz everyone knows he's being traded before the full 5
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08-21-2019, 09:39 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Amazing value in that contract there.
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08-21-2019, 09:42 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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I'm not that amazed. He had a good season last year at 21. But really, it's only his first full season so there's a pretty big question about whether that's indicative. The hope is, I guess, that he improves on 14 goals. For comparison's sake, Jankowski had 17 at age 22.
That said, he's a pretty important piece going forward.
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08-21-2019, 09:44 AM
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#7
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff
That seems like a bargain. 41 pts in 71 games at 22. (Although he looks 40)
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I think he's a decent player but is getting ice time and opportunities well above his abilities likely, so he'll get decent points.
Think when Stajan was getting 50 points per season.
If you do that on the first line with PP opportunities, you're team is in the bottom of the league.
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08-21-2019, 09:50 AM
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#8
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Wait, an RFA signed? Did I miss the Marner signing?
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08-21-2019, 10:13 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
I think he's a decent player but is getting ice time and opportunities well above his abilities likely, so he'll get decent points.
Think when Stajan was getting 50 points per season.
If you do that on the first line with PP opportunities, you're team is in the bottom of the league.
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Great comparison IMO
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08-21-2019, 10:58 AM
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Franchise Player
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That is a rich contract for a player who is still fairly new to the NHL. It can become a steal though, if White continues on his trajectory.
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08-21-2019, 11:03 AM
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Franchise Player
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His old teammate Tuch got a seven year contract extension for 4.75M after a single 15-22-37 season, including some NTC once eligible. Probably the closest comparable and exact same cap-hit so shouldn't be surprising.
I do like the massive jump the last year, pretty obvious that the Senators are at least anticipating paying him an average of 4.45M for the first 5 years than moving him that last.
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08-21-2019, 11:15 AM
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Franchise Player
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I hope this gets the ball rolling (though doubt it) for more RFA signings.
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08-21-2019, 01:06 PM
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Franchise Player
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Don’t know if I’ve watched a Sens game where Flames weren’t playing in a few years...
With that said, is this a Lindholm type bargain? Certainly more risk there as he has only one NHL reason so the trajectory is a bigger question mark.
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08-21-2019, 10:01 PM
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#14
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
I think he's a decent player but is getting ice time and opportunities well above his abilities likely, so he'll get decent points.
Think when Stajan was getting 50 points per season.
If you do that on the first line with PP opportunities, you're team is in the bottom of the league.
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It doesn't always happen but players White's age tend to get better over time. Usually these kinds of deals work out really well for the team. Granted, if a team was going to screw this up, it would be the Sens
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08-21-2019, 10:12 PM
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First Line Centre
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Well he's not a comparable to the higher profile RFAs. But at least it isn't a ridiculously rich deal that would bolster the arguments of better players' agents.
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08-22-2019, 05:29 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff
It doesn't always happen but players White's age tend to get better over time. Usually these kinds of deals work out really well for the team. Granted, if a team was going to screw this up, it would be the Sens
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The risk is gifting a player 1st line ice time and PP time by default and watching him put up 50 points as your team sinks to the bottom of the league.
I’m not saying that will be White but his point total last year wasn’t particularly impressive considering his opportunities.
And this signing has zero effect on the premium RFA’s.
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08-22-2019, 08:37 AM
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Franchise Player
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This contract brings into the discussion what the impact of the Overall team has on the individual goals and pts.
The Flames had over 50% of their roster have career years. Gio a solid 40-50 Pt scorer previous career year was 56pts On the super juiced Flames last year he beat this by 18 pts.
Tkachuk's 77 pts last season were very similar to Gio's 74 -- Tkachuk 24 on the pp Gio 21.
Is Tkachuk a 77-80 pt producer long term or is he a 56 - 60 pt guy?
What sort of pts would have Tkachuk put up on the Ottawa team ... certainly not 77. Mark Stone had 73 pts between Ottawa/Vegas. Duchene 70 Ott/CBJ.
What sort of pts would Colin White put up on last year's Flames in place of Tkachuk? certainly more than his 41.
Same goes for a lot or the elite UFAs ... Rantanen played the whole year with Mackinnon/Landeskog. Conner w/ Schiefele/Wheeler.
Does Brayden point put up 92 pts without Kucherov as a regular linemate?
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